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goodspirits

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2 posts

184 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Hi Guys, need some help please. I have just found out that a car i brought last year is a Cat B write off. I brought the car from a family member who is in the car repair trade and he took it as a part ex, but with no log book, just a copy of it.

When speaking to the 1st owner of the car, a lease car company, he learnt that the car was not written off and contacted the DVLA who sent out a duplicate V5 after the car underwent a VIC test. I then brought the car, taxed it insured it and have been driving it for over a year. When i went to re-insure the car again this year one company said it was a Cat B write off and to contact another insurance company, the one who wrote the car off to put right any possiable admin errors.

When i did get through to the right person they informed me the car was written off, due to flood damage and sold to a salvage company, took some details and said she would call back.

The next thing i know is a guy claiming to be from the salvage company phoned me insisting he crushed the car, and wanted to meet me. After all that a question..... Where do i legaly stand????? can i drive the car??? is it up to me to scrap it????.....Oh and really dont think it a ringger, its a 56 plate Mazda, and has a tamper proof chassie label on every panel.

Also the the car has the original number plates from the lease company, who was the 1st registered keeper.

I have contacted the DVLA and they can give me no information. They have not told me NOT to drive it so what should i do. I am thinking the Slavage guy has sold the car on, or the car was never flooded and it just one big scam for a claim.

The car is in pristine condition inside and out, just had it MOT'd the other week and passed with no faults at all.

Thanks

Vik

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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did the family member in the car repair trade not recognise that it was a write off?!!

I can't see that you're going to get very far with this one if it is genuine my friend. I assume that the confirmation of it not being a write off was verbal (please correct me if I'm wrong), so you really wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Again, I might be off the mark, but if it was flood damage, it would need to be MAJOR flood damage to CAT B it, I thought that, short of being swept away downstream and buried in the deep blue, it would be CAT C at worst. If this is right and it was big time flood damage, lose the car as soon as possible!!!!

As above, I might be wrong in my assumptions, apologies if I am!

Fume troll

4,389 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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No, you can't drive it. Not until you've sorted it out with the insurance co.

Sounds dodgy. Most Cat B cars are used for parts, only Cat A requires crushing AFAIK.

Cheers,

FT.

sday12

5,066 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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No, you can keep it, I've got enough feed here, thanks for asking.


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1.
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b. The portion of the output so returned.
c. Sound created when a transducer such as a microphone or electric guitar picks up sound from a speaker connected to an amplifier and regenerates it back through the amplifier.
2. The return of information about the result of a process or activity; an evaluative response: asked the students for feedback on the new curriculum.
3. The process by which a system, often biological or ecological, is modulated, controlled, or changed by the product, output, or response it produces.


worsy

6,465 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Is it or has it ever been on a private plate? There may be some confusion where a previous plate has tagged the car inadvertantly.

When you went to bring it did you run an hpi check on the vin/chassis number?

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I thought Cat B cannot be returned to road and MUST be broken up confused

SiH

1,852 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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sday12 said:
No, you can keep it, I've got enough feed here, thanks for asking.


feedback (fdbk)
n.
1.
a. The return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input, especially when used to maintain performance or to control a system or process.
b. The portion of the output so returned.
c. Sound created when a transducer such as a microphone or electric guitar picks up sound from a speaker connected to an amplifier and regenerates it back through the amplifier.
2. The return of information about the result of a process or activity; an evaluative response: asked the students for feedback on the new curriculum.
3. The process by which a system, often biological or ecological, is modulated, controlled, or changed by the product, output, or response it produces.
Come on, give the guy a break. You can only jump on him so soon if it's someone like Ry_B, Luftwaffe or some other ignorant troll. The OP has come one here looking for some advice and assistance with what sounds like a pretty difficult situation. If you're going to give him grief for splitting feedback at least give him some advice or input too.

OP, pass I'm afraid. I'm not sure what the best course of action is other than to ask if you've actually HPId it yourself. At least that way you'd have an independent answer as to whether the car really is a Cat B or not. From what I can gather it sounds as though that's still not entirely clear.

STW2010

5,895 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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sday12 said:
No, you can keep it, I've got enough feed here, thanks for asking.


feedback (fdbk)
n.
1.
a. The return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input, especially when used to maintain performance or to control a system or process.
b. The portion of the output so returned.
c. Sound created when a transducer such as a microphone or electric guitar picks up sound from a speaker connected to an amplifier and regenerates it back through the amplifier.
2. The return of information about the result of a process or activity; an evaluative response: asked the students for feedback on the new curriculum.
3. The process by which a system, often biological or ecological, is modulated, controlled, or changed by the product, output, or response it produces.
What an absolute tt

Arese

21,207 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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STW2010 said:
sday12 said:
No, you can keep it, I've got enough feed here, thanks for asking.


feedback (fdbk)
n.
1.
a. The return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input, especially when used to maintain performance or to control a system or process.
b. The portion of the output so returned.
c. Sound created when a transducer such as a microphone or electric guitar picks up sound from a speaker connected to an amplifier and regenerates it back through the amplifier.
2. The return of information about the result of a process or activity; an evaluative response: asked the students for feedback on the new curriculum.
3. The process by which a system, often biological or ecological, is modulated, controlled, or changed by the product, output, or response it produces.
What an absolute tt
To be fair, be bought it on himself.

STW2010

5,895 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Someone comes on asking for advice for what is quite a worrying situation, and they get patronised for a slight grammar mistake. It's unnecessary and unhelpful. And certainly not funny.

Feedback or feed back. One is correct, both are understandable.

A911DOM

4,084 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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You need to ask yourself why this guy from the salvage yard suddenly needs to see you to discuss this car!?

Where is this family member in the trade who obtained the car for you... Presumably they must know the salvage company? Can they not at least help you out here and see what the deal is before you wind up in a crusher somewhere...? wink

BrewsterBear

1,548 posts

215 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Bought.

HTH

Beyond Rational

3,544 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Salvage guy may be on the admin side of things, has the paperwork, thought the car was scrapped.

Guys working the yard, acutally doing the scrapping, may have let one 'escape'.

longdogger

78 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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iva cosworth said:
I thought Cat B cannot be returned to road and MUST be broken up confused
this^

TriumphVitesse

939 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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sday12 said:
No, you can keep it, I've got enough feed here, thanks for asking.


feedback (fdbk)
n.
1.
a. The return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input, especially when used to maintain performance or to control a system or process.
b. The portion of the output so returned.
c. Sound created when a transducer such as a microphone or electric guitar picks up sound from a speaker connected to an amplifier and regenerates it back through the amplifier.
2. The return of information about the result of a process or activity; an evaluative response: asked the students for feedback on the new curriculum.
3. The process by which a system, often biological or ecological, is modulated, controlled, or changed by the product, output, or response it produces.
fk'in gramma cop again!!

Seriously though, why would a car that has suffered flood damage have to be crushed? Unless the insurance has already paid out on it and its been registered as being scrapped by the DVLA?

Hope you get it sorted OP...

R11ysf

1,961 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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TriumphVitesse said:
Seriously though, why would a car that has suffered flood damage have to be crushed? Unless the insurance has already paid out on it and its been registered as being scrapped by the DVLA?
A very high percentage of flood damaged cars are cat B right offs because once the electrics have been underwater they often lose their warranty. So to put it right you'd need to replace the whole loom,ecu's etc etc not to mention if any water has got in under the protection on the chassis.

I remember seeing what looked like a perfectly useable Merc on ebay that was cat B. He said that it started once the water was removed from the engine (ran a bit rough) and even the electric seats still worked but cat B was the norm. Shame really as most of the car seemed pretty ok.

I guess the car won't be allowed back on the road OP, but if it is a scam maybe the scrapper would be willing to "purchase" the car back off you for a suitable fee for you not to report this to the insurance company / police??

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Are you sure the Chassis number is the same as that is on the V5?

Could just be false plates..

And please, it's bought not brought! Gave me a headache reading that

A911DOM

4,084 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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R11ysf said:
TriumphVitesse said:
Seriously though, why would a car that has suffered flood damage have to be crushed? Unless the insurance has already paid out on it and its been registered as being scrapped by the DVLA?
A very high percentage of flood damaged cars are cat B right offs because once the electrics have been underwater they often lose their warranty. So to put it right you'd need to replace the whole loom,ecu's etc etc not to mention if any water has got in under the protection on the chassis.

I remember seeing what looked like a perfectly useable Merc on ebay that was cat B. He said that it started once the water was removed from the engine (ran a bit rough) and even the electric seats still worked but cat B was the norm. Shame really as most of the car seemed pretty ok.

I guess the car won't be allowed back on the road OP, but if it is a scam maybe the scrapper would be willing to "purchase" the car back off you for a suitable fee for you not to report this to the insurance company / police??
Yep, maybe the salvage guys are now concerned that this car (which shouldnt have been released onto the roads again), has just reared its head again out of the blue?

Let us know how it goes.