Wheel Spacers or Wider Lock Stops?
Wheel Spacers or Wider Lock Stops?
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Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Now I have my cerb tracked up properly I have a problem with the front wheels hitting the wishbones when on full lock.
I have checked today and it already has the added lock stops fitted to the rack, so I guess I have two options either fitted larger stops in the rack and loose even more steering lock or fit wheel spacers.

Which of these two is the most successful fix for this problem with spider wheels fitted to a Cerbera?

Is there another option that I have not considered?

Martin

plasticman

908 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Grind away the wishbones ?

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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If they still foul with spacers then they are either too wide or have the wrong offset.

If it's the wrong offset then you could fit spacers but you could also end up with thread engagement issues.

If they're too wide then fitting spacers will potentially ruin the handling (induce tram-lining etc).

Lock stops is probably the best route but you need to work out what the problem is first.

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Like the OP I once had to have more than one set of lock stops fitted when having spiders fitted (cerbera no 2).

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Are they the correct spiders? They should be rear ones all round (if off a Tuscan)!

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I have Tuscan fronts on the front & Tuscan rears on the rear, sounds like this is wrong then!
Just to confirm I should have Tuscan rears all round because they have a lesser offset making the track wider and therefore moving the wheel rim away from the wishbone?

I have already ordered a set of the Silverstone Performance 3mm wheel spacers as custom made for Tuscan's to widen the track and improve the twichy / nervous steering, so in theory these should solve my problem if not I need a pair of Tuscan Rears to go on the front of my Cerb?

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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You'll need the correct (rear) wheels unless you want to get a lot of geometry issues.
My housemate bought a Wedge with aftermarket wheels which require spacers. The handling and tyre-scrubbing is awful and the wheels foul the body becuase they turn through a larger circle around the centre point!

nemasis

310 posts

281 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Cerbera has FRONT spiders all round, and we used to put a 2 lockstops in each side 1 was 10mm and 1 was 5 mm this should stop the wheels from catching the wishbones

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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nemasis said:
Cerbera has FRONT spiders all round, and we used to put a 2 lockstops in each side 1 was 10mm and 1 was 5 mm this should stop the wheels from catching the wishbones
confused Front not rear? I am prepared to stand corrected on this, and apologise to OP!

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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nemasis said:
Cerbera has FRONT spiders all round, and we used to put a 2 lockstops in each side 1 was 10mm and 1 was 5 mm this should stop the wheels from catching the wishbones
How did that amount of lock stop affect the turning circle? I struggle with mine now for parking etc.

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Also is the large nylon spacer in each side of the rack OE fitted by TVR? and just the narrow 4mm one's with a split to aid fitting that are the aftermarket losk stops.

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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You generally need tuscan fronts all round (some get away with rears at the rear).
The lock stops were 'oe' ie the factory realised the spiders didnt fit cerbs properly and therefore provided the nylon spacers (ie a chamfered nylon ring with a cut out to allow fitting).

nemasis

310 posts

281 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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the large one was fitted at the time the rack was built in the factory then we used to put the smaller one in at the end of the line. will have to have a look and see if ive got some in the workshop, but they were all fitted at the factory. some cars didnt need them and some did.

pmessling

2,321 posts

232 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I have a pair of rears as spare, although have been trying to swap them, will have to try them on the car before i do, see if there any issues on the rear that is

nemasis

310 posts

281 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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the only issues you may have on the rear is they may catch the inner wheel arch on rebound but thats an easy fix. but dont put them on the front as that is a world of trouble.
pmessling said:
I have a pair of rears as spare, although have been trying to swap them, will have to try them on the car before i do, see if there any issues on the rear that is