Best time to use Dartford crossing?
Best time to use Dartford crossing?
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Manks

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28,176 posts

243 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I have got to go to Kent next week. What time of day is the Dartford Crossing bearable please (without needing to be driving at 3am!).

I used it mid-week, middle of the day, a couple of weeks ago and there was a 10-mile tailback simply due to the weight of traffic.

greengreenwood7

958 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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normally i'd say that the late morning - early afternoon window would be about it - 11-2.
If you're coming south and the traffic is bad depending on where it backs up from can always dive through the services at Thurrock and miss 3/4 mile. left hand lanes over the bridge/tolls seem to move faster in slow traffic. And if you know there's a weight of traffic heading north depending where you're coming from could perhaps come off the '25 and on again at the last junction (erith/industrial estate).

Manks

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28,176 posts

243 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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greengreenwood7 said:
normally i'd say that the late morning - early afternoon window would be about it - 11-2.
If you're coming south and the traffic is bad depending on where it backs up from can always dive through the services at Thurrock and miss 3/4 mile. left hand lanes over the bridge/tolls seem to move faster in slow traffic. And if you know there's a weight of traffic heading north depending where you're coming from could perhaps come off the '25 and on again at the last junction (erith/industrial estate).
Thanks GreenGreenwood, useful tips.

Sticks.

9,542 posts

272 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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greengreenwood7 said:
And if you know there's a weight of traffic heading north depending where you're coming from could perhaps come off the '25 and on again at the last junction (erith/industrial estate).
I'd wondered about this last time I was waiting ages on the slip road having come from the A2 SE. So it'd be better for me to miss the A2 slip road, continue to the roundabout go N on the A road and join at the Princes Rd roundabout? I'd even thought about going Bluewater, Greenhithe, A206 - is that likely to be quicker?

Robin Hood

703 posts

226 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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Having always had to queue for an hour or so for the Dartford tunnel I've given up with it and now go to the end of the M11 and through the Blackwall Tunnel, used it for 3 return trips so far and straight through every time smile

Manks

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Robin Hood said:
Having always had to queue for an hour or so for the Dartford tunnel I've given up with it and now go to the end of the M11 and through the Blackwall Tunnel, used it for 3 return trips so far and straight through every time smile
I am going to Tonbridge so that takes me out my way.

It is all very frustrating when it appears the delays are mostly because the crossing operators want to extract their £1.50 tolls with little consideration for the chaos it can create.

Sticks.

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272 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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Agreed, and I think it's going up, though not sure when. There's talk of another crossing nr Gravesend but I'll believe it when I see it. Btw, I guess you now theres a safety camera on the A21 just before the Tonbridge exit.

Will look into the Blackwall Tunnel I think.

Manks

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Sticks. said:
Agreed, and I think it's going up, though not sure when. There's talk of another crossing nr Gravesend but I'll believe it when I see it. Btw, I guess you now theres a safety camera on the A21 just before the Tonbridge exit.
No I did not know that, but thanks for the tip.

Manks

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28,176 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th November 2010
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OK here is an answer to my own question, "not when the bridge is closed".

I went down on Thursday from Nottingham and it took me 8.5 hours to Tonbridge.

I might have got away with 6.5 hours but I made the fatal error of coming off at Thurrock services for a pee and a coffee. What I did not realise was that when the bridge is closed the exit slip is closed and I was sent on a 2-hour journey north to rejoin the southbound carriageway.

Whilst all this was going on traffic became lawless. People were ignoring red lights, driving on verges and hard shoulders, I saw loads of crashes and bumps as people jostled with each other to filter into traffic. The verges became open-air toilets.

I saw no police or other traffic control authority attempting to deal with the situation whatsoever.

Sad though I am to say it, the standard of our road network seems to be regressing quickly. I used to be able to do Tonbridge to Nottingham in under 2.5 hours regularly. Now 3 hours is about the fastest and average is probably nearer 4 hours. I hope never to beat my 8.5 hour epic of Thursday.

I am pleased though that the chaos didn't prevent the crossing operators from collecting their tolls.

Robin Hood

703 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th November 2010
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Maybe my suggestion of the Blackwall Tunnel wasn't such a bad idea after all then. I go from Nottingham too, A1, A14, M11 Blackwall Tunnel, never had a problem with that. Tonbridge is 26 miles from Dartford and 27 from Greenwich so hardly any difference once across the Thames.

Sticks.

9,542 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th November 2010
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Sorry to hear that, sounds a nightmare. I regularly travel from Kent to Middx and it can take 1.5h but has often taken 3+.

Manks

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Saturday 13th November 2010
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Robin Hood said:
Maybe my suggestion of the Blackwall Tunnel wasn't such a bad idea after all then. I go from Nottingham too, A1, A14, M11 Blackwall Tunnel, never had a problem with that. Tonbridge is 26 miles from Dartford and 27 from Greenwich so hardly any difference once across the Thames.
I gather that the Blackwall Tunnel was closed at the same time due to an accident and thw Woolwich ferry was not running due to the wind.

checkmate91

858 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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going clockwise, you have to be over the crossing before 6.30 am on a weekday. After that, the mobile cranes have come up from Kent and create mobile chicanes on the nearside lane with 56mph lorries overtaking in the middle lane and clapped out old vans overtaking them at 57mph in the outside lane.

Or, to answer the original question, 3am