Blown engine Ford S-Max

[Gazzab]

Just trying to help a friend out re his options...
He has an 07 S-Max 1.8tdi lx but has blown the engine. His local (non Ford) garage have spent sometime stripping it down but he is wondering whether to (for example):-

Sell it as it is (although he doesnt have the time)
Talk to Ford dealer re a part ex as is.
Fix it and then part ex it.

I think option 3 is the most expensive option? Might cost 5 or 6K to fix. Any thoughts on options?

Cheers

[morgrp]

Just buy a complete working lump from a scrappy - chuck it in as is and flog it or part ex it

[Leicesterdave]

Never get this- hasn't got the time?

Time to fix your mode of transport? Make time!!

[Gazzab]

Leicesterdave said:

Never get this- hasn't got the time?

Time to fix your mode of transport? Make time!!

Thanks for that advice, I'll pass it on.

[lost in espace]

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

[andy-xr]

lost in espace said:

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

You'd have thought if it was just mechanicals, all senders and sensors etc should transfer over to the new bits of metal, leaving all original woring in place

You'd have thought...

ETA - personally if repairing/replacing the engine in it, I'd keep it

Edited by andy-xr on Saturday 6th November 19:19

[Gazzab]

Think hes going to try and strike a deal with the Ford dealer he bought it from (warranty ran out in March). He'd happily trade it for a few grand less than its worth just to be shot of it but he doesnt want another ford (its only the wifes kiddie ferry).

[vit4]

07 and blown an engine? What happened?

[CarlT]

Has he tried speaking to Ford Customer Services to see if they will contribute to the repair on a car that is 7 months out of warranty.

This would be subject to it having Full Ford service history though I would suspect...

[EDLT]

lost in espace said:

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

Assuming none of the electrical parts are damaged, they could be swapped over to the "new" engine without having to be reprogrammed.


To the OP, whats actually wrong with the engine, I assume it hasn't literally exploded?

[morgrp]

lost in espace said:

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

You don't need to replace the ancileries or even the ECU if its the same engine - just the top and bottom end as a complete unit i.e. without stripping and doing the head gasket etc

I did it for a customer a few weeks back on a 1.25 fiesta - he had snapped the cambelt - Quote for a rebuild with the labour and parts you're prob looking at £400-£500ish We bought a complete engine from the scrapyard for £125 and we charged £100 to fit it The ECU etc all stayed from the knackered engine

[Gazzab]

somehow the crank has gone!
Apparently it isnt that uncommon.

[DangerousMike]

driving in too high a gear/not changing down soon enough.

[SClarke]

morgrp said:

lost in espace said:

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

You don't need to replace the ancileries or even the ECU if its the same engine - just the top and bottom end as a complete unit i.e. without stripping and doing the head gasket etc

I did it for a customer a few weeks back on a 1.25 fiesta - he had snapped the cambelt - Quote for a rebuild with the labour and parts you're prob looking at £400-£500ish We bought a complete engine from the scrapyard for £125 and we charged £100 to fit it The ECU etc all stayed from the knackered engine

Not worked on an S-max have you

[Gazzab]

DangerousMike said:

driving in too high a gear/not changing down soon enough.

Thanks for the advice.

[Glosphil]

Gazzab said:

Think hes going to try and strike a deal with the Ford dealer he bought it from (warranty ran out in March). He'd happily trade it for a few grand less than its worth just to be shot of it but he doesnt want another ford (its only the wifes kiddie ferry).

He has 6 kids!

[morgrp]

SClarke said:

morgrp said:

lost in espace said:

I bet its not as simple as throwing a unit in from a scrapper, you will need ecu coding and alarms syncing too I suspect. An indi with a suitable computer ODB setup will probably be able to do it, but think of the hassle. Most people wouldn't bother. Ebay auction and buy a new one.

You don't need to replace the ancileries or even the ECU if its the same engine - just the top and bottom end as a complete unit i.e. without stripping and doing the head gasket etc

I did it for a customer a few weeks back on a 1.25 fiesta - he had snapped the cambelt - Quote for a rebuild with the labour and parts you're prob looking at £400-£500ish We bought a complete engine from the scrapyard for £125 and we charged £100 to fit it The ECU etc all stayed from the knackered engine

Not worked on an S-max have you

No but my point is if it's thrown a crank all you need is a complete block and head to swap - the ecu and engine electronics are not affected. explain to me how that wouldn't work? Can the ecu tell that the block and head are not the originals? I'd be surprised and frankly amazed if it could