Winter is coming - the what cheap winter snotter thread!
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Winter is very nearly upon us, so in the interest of keeping mobile in the event of a repeat of last year's weather what do we think the best winter snotter would be?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
Good thread.
I have been thinking about this and torn between something like a Peugeot 306 / Rover 200 diesel (reasonable to drive, economical, cheap, can do distances), or a cheap 4x4 (cope with all the winter weather easily, but could be expensive to run), or go with a subaru forester or something (best of both worlds?).
To be honest though, it's the expense of an extra insurance policy, mot, tax etc. Let's face it, insurance is going to be £500+ on anything if you are starting with no NCB...
I have been thinking about this and torn between something like a Peugeot 306 / Rover 200 diesel (reasonable to drive, economical, cheap, can do distances), or a cheap 4x4 (cope with all the winter weather easily, but could be expensive to run), or go with a subaru forester or something (best of both worlds?).
To be honest though, it's the expense of an extra insurance policy, mot, tax etc. Let's face it, insurance is going to be £500+ on anything if you are starting with no NCB...
It is a bit of an extravagance, I'll admit, but just knowing that you are unlikely to be phased by even the most adverse conditions would be worth the cost IMO - and a decent sized estate with a towbar is always useful to have. Anyway, I gave up getting drunk many moons ago - spunking all my spare money on cars has been something of a habit for many years now!
On the diesel 4x4 front, there are a couple of Maverick/Terranos for under £800, and also the odd Pajero - either would still be reasonably juicy I would think, though I have fancied a Paj for some time now. Slightly more durable than a diesel Rangey.
Having looked on ebay as well ,the quest would seem to be quite a difficult one. Not much in the way of 4x4s for less than £1000 - maybe I had better stick with the Honda........
On the diesel 4x4 front, there are a couple of Maverick/Terranos for under £800, and also the odd Pajero - either would still be reasonably juicy I would think, though I have fancied a Paj for some time now. Slightly more durable than a diesel Rangey.
Having looked on ebay as well ,the quest would seem to be quite a difficult one. Not much in the way of 4x4s for less than £1000 - maybe I had better stick with the Honda........
Always liked the look of these for disposable winter motoring. 1.3 AWD, could be a bit of fun with a decent set of tyres.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2226125.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2226125.htm
t banging into you!
Can't think of any other reason to own one of these, but there isn't much which fits all your criteria.
Can't think of many other diesel 4wd manual estates available for less than 1k.
As a nasty piece of Vauxhall crap which I didn't care about, was happy to dump anywhere and get bashed in, I rather like it!
Rollcage said:
Winter is very nearly upon us, so in the interest of keeping mobile in the event of a repeat of last year's weather what do we think the best winter snotter would be?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
I think an understanding of 4wd systems, differentials and driving in slippery conditions would help inform you about what would be suitable more than any recommendations anyone will make.It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
300bhp/ton said:
Rollcage said:
Winter is very nearly upon us, so in the interest of keeping mobile in the event of a repeat of last year's weather what do we think the best winter snotter would be?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
I think an understanding of 4wd systems, differentials and driving in slippery conditions would help inform you about what would be suitable more than any recommendations anyone will make.It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
(Although I'll admit to being defeated in the Z3 by the conditions earlier in the year and having to turn around on a hill that a FWD hatch had earlier sailed up - maybe I cant drive after all!)Rollcage said:
DAVEVO9 said:
Would be a lot cheaper to get some winter tyres fitted?
The Honda was £300. I'm not talking about blowing thousands here 
I know cars are cheaper down south, but c'mon...thats ridiculous!
irodger said:
Rollcage said:
DAVEVO9 said:
Would be a lot cheaper to get some winter tyres fitted?
The Honda was £300. I'm not talking about blowing thousands here I know cars are cheaper down south, but c'mon...thats ridiculous!
X reg as well!
Rollcage said:
irodger said:
Rollcage said:
DAVEVO9 said:
Would be a lot cheaper to get some winter tyres fitted?
The Honda was £300. I'm not talking about blowing thousands here I know cars are cheaper down south, but c'mon...thats ridiculous!
X reg as well!
TBH I do see the odd "wonder buy" available, but they're always hundereds of miles away, and by the time I factor in a flight/train and return fuel costs, its not worth it. Saw a V6 Mondeo go for £270 the other week...would've cost about £200 to collect it!
I'll get lucky one day!
Rollcage said:
300bhp/ton said:
Rollcage said:
Winter is very nearly upon us, so in the interest of keeping mobile in the event of a repeat of last year's weather what do we think the best winter snotter would be?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
I think an understanding of 4wd systems, differentials and driving in slippery conditions would help inform you about what would be suitable more than any recommendations anyone will make.It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
(Although I'll admit to being defeated in the Z3 by the conditions earlier in the year and having to turn around on a hill that a FWD hatch had earlier sailed up - maybe I cant drive after all!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw
It does a specific comparison with a modeern CRV too.
Rollcage said:
300bhp/ton said:
Rollcage said:
Winter is very nearly upon us, so in the interest of keeping mobile in the event of a repeat of last year's weather what do we think the best winter snotter would be?
It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
I think an understanding of 4wd systems, differentials and driving in slippery conditions would help inform you about what would be suitable more than any recommendations anyone will make.It should be four wheel drive and be cheap to run, so sadly rules out Range Rovers and Jeeps!
I was thinking of some sort of Subaru, or a cheap Audi quattro of one form or another. In a perfect world it would be diesel, estate, manual, 4wd and cost less than a bag, and preferably less than £500. It would be used when the weather was bad and I need to get to work, or of course when the weather is bad and I want to have some fun!
In the end I saw a cheap Honda CR-V, and have bought that, but i'm not sure I'll keep it, as I would like something a little more PH.
Any other suggestions?
(Although I'll admit to being defeated in the Z3 by the conditions earlier in the year and having to turn around on a hill that a FWD hatch had earlier sailed up - maybe I cant drive after all!)
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