Dave offends the Chinese.
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Victor McDade

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4,395 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Good on them for refusing to remove it.




Telegraph said:
David Cameron in China: ministers refuse calls to remove poppies

Those travelling with the Prime Minister were asked if they would remove the symbols.

It is thought the request was because of the poppy’s significance to the Opium Wars.

Startled officials accompanying the Prime Minister on his two-day trade mission to China were shocked when they were asked if they would remove the emblems before Mr Cameron’s official welcome at Beijing’s Great Hall.

A host of officials and four other Cabinet ministers — George Osborne, Michael Gove, Chris Huhne and Vince Cable — all refused to remove their poppies and they took their position to watch the Prime Minister inspect Chinese troops alongside Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier.

One member of the Downing Street party said: “The Chinese told us it would be inappropriate to wear poppies because of the Opium Wars. We informed them they meant a great deal to us and we would be wearing them all the same.”

The Anglo-Chinese wars were the culmination of trade disputes between the two nations. The first took place from 1839 to 1842 and saw the British defeat the Chinese.

This year marks the 150th anniversary of the end of the second Opium War — a joint Anglo-French military operation.

Mr Cameron will pay his respects to the war dead at a ceremony in South Korea tomorrow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/8121570/David-Cameron-in-China-ministers-refuse-calls-to-remove-poppies.html

chimster

1,747 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Victor McDade said:
Good on them for refusing to remove it.




Telegraph said:
David Cameron in China: ministers refuse calls to remove poppies

Those travelling with the Prime Minister were asked if they would remove the symbols.

It is thought the request was because of the poppy’s significance to the Opium Wars.

Startled officials accompanying the Prime Minister on his two-day trade mission to China were shocked when they were asked if they would remove the emblems before Mr Cameron’s official welcome at Beijing’s Great Hall.

A host of officials and four other Cabinet ministers — George Osborne, Michael Gove, Chris Huhne and Vince Cable — all refused to remove their poppies and they took their position to watch the Prime Minister inspect Chinese troops alongside Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier.

One member of the Downing Street party said: “The Chinese told us it would be inappropriate to wear poppies because of the Opium Wars. We informed them they meant a great deal to us and we would be wearing them all the same.”

The Anglo-Chinese wars were the culmination of trade disputes between the two nations. The first took place from 1839 to 1842 and saw the British defeat the Chinese.

This year marks the 150th anniversary of the end of the second Opium War — a joint Anglo-French military operation.

Mr Cameron will pay his respects to the war dead at a ceremony in South Korea tomorrow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/8121570/David-Cameron-in-China-ministers-refuse-calls-to-remove-poppies.html
Fair enough. Well done DC

V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin

oOTomOo

594 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Hit him in the face?

speedchick

5,288 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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That a uniform they have on?

Hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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All of a sudden, now they are out of the country they don't care about offending other cultures.

Makes you wonder why they put so much effort into making sure it doesn't happen at home..

Digga

48,375 posts

313 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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anonymous said:
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He looks like he's giving that nod, you know, the one that says "This glass appears to be defective, would you mind awfully replacing it with a full one? Hic."

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Isn't this a (very) little like the Chinese turning up to Israel wearing swastika badges?

Different symbols mean different things to different cultures. Seems a bit of an insensitive way for a guest to behave.

Digga

48,375 posts

313 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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HundredthIdiot said:
Isn't this a (very) little like the Chinese turning up to Israel wearing swastika badges?

Different symbols mean different things to different cultures. Seems a bit of an insensitive way for a guest to behave.
Its not always nice, putting peple in their place, but occasionally it has to be done.

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Probably exactly the same just those actions would of got him called an insensitive bd who is an embarrassment to the UK because he is an unelected scottish one eyed idiot who only got in because those 68 scottish MPs gave labour a 71 seat majority in the houses of commons and no one in england ever voted labour and he he is a tosser and its all blairs fault anyway and so on for at least ten pages.

But cameron wears a blue tie so everythings fine

DJC

23,563 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Well they were damned if they did and damned if they didnt, at least they made a decision and backed it. I half suspect had it been Brown they would started out one way, U-turned at the first hint of criticism and then found themselves being smacked again from the otherside and trying to do another semi-U turn to come up with a half arsed solution that just annoyed everybody.

Vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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HundredthIdiot said:
Isn't this a (very) little like the Chinese turning up to Israel wearing swastika badges?

Different symbols mean different things to different cultures. Seems a bit of an insensitive way for a guest to behave.
I didn't know the chinese wore swastika badges?




smile

Rofly Lollers

759 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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It has been hard to get excited about the governments who have come and gone in my lifetime, but this government, I really like. biggrin

Soovy

35,829 posts

301 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Rofly Lollers said:
It has been hard to get excited about the governments who have come and gone in my lifetime, but this government, I really like. biggrin
And me.

Sticking it to the feckless.

Love it.

Jackleman

974 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Who?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Jackleman said:
V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Who?
Well, Gordon of Khartoum would probably have kicked arse.

Tunku

7,703 posts

258 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
He would have cried, gave the Chinese 34 billion in aid, and pinned a lychee to his lapel.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Jackleman said:
V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Who?
Flash Gordon?

General Price

6,355 posts

213 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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V88Dicky said:
I wonder what Gordon would have done? scratchchin
Probably asked if they wanted to buy a container ship full of gold for the price of a special fried rice