How desperate are car dealers at the moment?
How desperate are car dealers at the moment?
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SonicHedgeHog

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2,705 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I have seen some statistics on the news recently that show new car sales are WAY down on this time last year. These numbers are obviously skewed by last year's scrappage scheme, but are dealers now desperate for sales? If they are, would some of you mind sharing how much you managed to negotiate off the list price? I'm in the market for something practical around £20k, but I'm sure others would be interested in discounts achieved on cars at different price points.

On the same theme, what do we think will happen when VAT goes up to 20% in January? Do we think that dealers will absorb the tax rise and offer even better deals to get people back in the showroom or are they already at the limit of their discounting resulting in the buyer having to cough up for the extra VAT?

danyeates

7,248 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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You can buy a new Skoda Octavia VRS TDI estate which would list at around £22,000 for £16,900 at the moment (Dealer will do a discount and the Skoda UK will pay the VAT). Bargain for a 170hp diesel estate car!! And that's with a 50% deposit and 2 years interest free credit!

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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They're very desperate. Trying to sell the OH's Mito at the moment and no matter how much you drop the price they just come down to match you. Not that they're selling anyway!


Blib

47,148 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Gizmo! said:
They're very desperate. Trying to sell the OH's Mito at the moment and no matter how much you drop the price they just come down to match you. Not that they're selling anyway!
0/T

The Mito's going? What she getting?

POORCARDEALER

8,634 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I am desperate for clean low mileage used stock

SonicHedgeHog

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2,705 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Perhaps I ought to clarify that I am looking for a new car. I'm not surprised there is shortage of low mileage used stuff because there is no NEED to change these cars, only a desire to get something different. Given the lack of cash around at the moment I think a lot of people have to put their desires on the back burner.

petrolsniffer

2,536 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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http://www.peugeot.co.uk/showroom/latest-offers/ju...

Seems pretty desprate to me although looking at thier cars now i'm not suprized!

SonicHedgeHog

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2,705 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I've seen the Skoda and SEAT deals. Good as they are I just don't think I can cope with telling people what I drive. I already have to justify my diesel, but a Skoda is just too much. Sorry to Skoda owners.

Not going anywhere near a Peugeot either, but thanks for the info.

Has anyone managed to get a monumental deal on a Ford recently? I'm talking 25% off, say a Focus, which will replaced next summer?

POORCARDEALER

8,634 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Perhaps I ought to clarify that I am looking for a new car. I'm not surprised there is shortage of low mileage used stuff because there is no NEED to change these cars, only a desire to get something different. Given the lack of cash around at the moment I think a lot of people have to put their desires on the back burner.
Apart from a few franchises, the new car job is very quiet

koolchris99

12,310 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
I've seen the Skoda and SEAT deals. Good as they are I just don't think I can cope with telling people what I drive. I already have to justify my diesel, but a Skoda is just too much. Sorry to Skoda owners.

Not going anywhere near a Peugeot either, but thanks for the info.

Has anyone managed to get a monumental deal on a Ford recently? I'm talking 25% off, say a Focus, which will replaced next summer?
find someone who works for ford.. youll get a better deal than that

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Blib said:
Gizmo! said:
They're very desperate. Trying to sell the OH's Mito at the moment and no matter how much you drop the price they just come down to match you. Not that they're selling anyway!
0/T

The Mito's going? What she getting?
Mentioned previously in the Alfa forum wink

She's getting an MX5.

(No point having two cars when we both walk to work).

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
a Skoda is just too much. Sorry to Skoda owners.
No need to apologise, you're the one with the outdated ridiculous hang up about it smile

Alfa numeric

3,156 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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POORCARDEALER said:
I am desperate for clean low mileage used stock
I wish you lived closer to me- my local Renault dealer offered me a grand less then WBAC when I enquired about my '08 30k R26...

s1962a

7,307 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Which manufacturers are doing well at the moment? Lexus?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

269 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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POORCARDEALER said:
I am desperate for clean low mileage used stock
Well, if people aren't buying NEW cars that's hardly surprising.

As you and I know, and contrary to PH wisdom, the motor trade has rarely been "easy". These recent years have been very difficult and it's hard to see where it's headed.

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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s1962a said:
Which manufacturers are doing well at the moment?
Skoda actually, up 73%. And there's a massive waiting list and demand for most models. A Yeti is into the middle of next year, and there's also long lead times on many Octavia/Fabia variants too. Which is strange seeing as how they're giving them away. Chicken and egg I suppose, which came first, the demand or the discount?

SonicHedgeHog

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2,705 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I think Skoda have long delivery times because they now build cars to order rather than having them sat in a field for months on end. I'm sure their prices are proving popular with people on a budget too.

For the record I fully recognise Skoda make very good cars. Unfortunately, outside this kind of forum there is still an image problem although it is getting better. It's like the the Cool Wall - "what do you drive?", "a Skoda Murcielago". People don't hear Murcielago because they already made up their mind when you said Skoda.

Anyway, I need to find someone who works for Ford. More than 25% would be fantastic.

_Batty_

12,268 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
I think Skoda have long delivery times because they now build cars to order rather than having them sat in a field for months on end. I'm sure their prices are proving popular with people on a budget too.

For the record I fully recognise Skoda make very good cars. Unfortunately, outside this kind of forum there is still an image problem although it is getting better. It's like the the Cool Wall - "what do you drive?", "a Skoda Murcielago". People don't hear Murcielago because they already made up their mind when you said Skoda.

Anyway, I need to find someone who works for Ford. More than 25% would be fantastic.
Stupid people who think skoda are still Soviet sheds means that the people in the know end up with a brilliant car, for less than a VW.
Noticed how second hand Fabia VRS prices will not budge?
Just like people who think MX5's are for hairdressers and Alfa's break down every 12 seconds.

Mooster

45 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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_Batty_ said:
Alfa's break down every 12 seconds.
Actually more like every 10 seconds for the Alfa. At least for my 156 anyway smash

(currently on SORN as its broken again!!!)

kprm77

417 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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danyeates said:
You can buy a new Skoda Octavia VRS TDI estate which would list at around £22,000 for £16,900 at the moment (Dealer will do a discount and the Skoda UK will pay the VAT). Bargain for a 170hp diesel estate car!! And that's with a 50% deposit and 2 years interest free credit!
But you'd have to wait until the end of April onwards to get your hands on it. Long waiting list due to the VAT discount. Very good cars though (I've had two Superbs).