Stopped by Police

[juk]

I got stopped on Sunday whilst on my bike, pulled over for 'routine check' plod was ok, no problems (but as no tax displayed I got a producer) I was informed that 25% of fatalities in county are bikers & managed to refrain from asking if they were stopping cars/cyclists/pedestrians to inform them of their particular statistic.

Question is I thought there had to be some reason (however tenuous) to stop you, is that right? (It would be a shame to have your cargo of Uzi's / Crack etc discovered on a police whim!)

[Nano2nd]

personaly i think random stops are a good thing, they've gotta do something to deter people from not insuring etc... i mean in all my driving career i've never been stopped for nothing, so assuming i had a car in tip top condition and drove under the posted limit all the time why would i need insurance?

sorry for taking you thread OT abit

i say replace all speed cameras with those number plate recog systems

[deltaf]

Nano2nd said:

i say replace all speed cameras with those number plate recog systems

And then they can track you everywhere you go...great idea!

[shnozz]

in the days when i road hairdryer motorbikes i used to get pulled by the Bib at least once a month, often for no reason. never had a random pull (well, from the Bib) since I have been driving a car, despite having some fairly flash cars at a young age.

[juk]

Nano2nd said:

personaly i think random stops are a good thing, they've gotta do something to deter people from not insuring etc... i mean in all my driving career i've never been stopped for nothing, so assuming i had a car in tip top condition and drove under the posted limit all the time why would i need insurance? sorry for taking you thread OT abit i say replace all speed cameras with those number plate recog systems

If I'd had my tax disc with me , could / would they have given me producer? - if not, not much deterrence to the insuranceless.

[xxplod]

A Police Constable in uniform may stop any motor vehicle on a road in order to ascertain whether the driver has a licence. This power is contained in Section 163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. No reason is required, it is an offence not to produce the licence to Police there and then, with a statutory defence available if it is produced at a Police Station within 7 days.

It stirs up the debate on "random breath tests." There is no power to breath test people at random, but, given powers under S163, they are not needed. Police may breathalyse a diver in 3 circumstances, following an accident, if alcohol is suspected in the driver, or if the driver has committed a moving road traffic offnece (NOT an excise offence).

The conversation usually goes, "Good evening Sir, may I see your driving licence? Sniff! Have you had a drink?........"

[juk]

xxplod said:

A Police Constable in uniform may stop any motor vehicle on a road in order to ascertain whether the driver has a licence. This power is contained in Section 163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. No reason is required, it is an offence not to produce the licence to Police there and then, with a statutory defence available if it is produced at a Police Station within 7 days. It stirs up the debate on "random breath tests." There is no power to breath test people at random, but, given powers under S163, they are not needed. Police may breathalyse a diver in 3 circumstances, following an accident, if alcohol is suspected in the driver, or if the driver has committed a moving road traffic offnece (NOT an excise offence). The conversation usually goes, "Good evening Sir, may I see your driving licence? Sniff! Have you had a drink?........"

Well thats sorted that one out - thanks for that.

[chrisgr31]

xxplod said:

A Police Constable in uniform may stop any motor vehicle on a road in order to ascertain whether the driver has a licence. This power is contained in Section 163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. No reason is required, it is an offence not to produce the licence to Police there and then, with a statutory defence available if it is produced at a Police Station within 7 days.

Does the licence (assumming its one of the old fashioned paper ones) have to be in a single piece?

Mine is in 7 or so pieces as it has spent years in my wallet, and someone told me that this was an offence.

[planetdave]

Logically the bit of paper is not actually the licence - if it were the only record of your licence to drive then that might be a problem.
A bit like a banknote being actually worth about £00.02.


Shoot me down in flames if you know better.

[pdV6]

juk said:

If I'd had my tax disc with me , could / would they have given me producer? - if not, not much deterrence to the insuranceless.

The theory is that you need to prove insurance at the time of paying VED.
The massive flaw is that a temporary cover note is good enough for the post office...

[pdV6]

planetdave said:

Logically the bit of paper is not actually the licence - if it were the only record of your licence to drive then that might be a problem. A bit like a banknote being actually worth about £00.02. Shoot me down in flames if you know better.

Used to be! My dad once managed to lose all his current points by applying for a replacement licence (lost the old one) . 'Twas in the days before widespread use of computers though.

[OUTLAWisBACK]

remebber when i was young first bike

couldent get to the end of the street with out a producer.

then The BiB wonder why they lose public support.

[tonyrec]

OUTLAWisBACK said:

remebber when i was young first bike couldent get to the end of the street with out a producer. then The BiB wonder why they lose public support.

I was also stopped every other day when i was 16 and riding my FS1E.

However, i joined the Police a couple of years later...

[OUTLAWisBACK]

tonyrec said:

OUTLAWisBACK said: remebber when i was young first bike couldent get to the end of the street with out a producer. then The BiB wonder why they lose public support. I was also stopped every other day when i was 16 and riding my FS1E. However, i joined the Police a couple of years later...

yea but my point was thats was all leagal

if I when and nicked a Beammer

i could drive it for lands end to jhona groats and back with out a pull

im just say I a bloog good way for the bibs to gone on if they want public support.

[TonyOut]

Tonyrec said:

I was also stopped every other day when i was 16 and riding my FS1E. However, i joined the Police a couple of years later...

And you were still riding a Fizzy???