Can anybody explain why some drivers do this?

[TonyRPH]

Sat at a 'T' junction waiting to turn right. (see map)

Absolutely no traffic approaching from right.

One single car approaching from left - so I sit and wait...

At the very last second, said driver indicates to turn right.

This happens to me frequently at this particular (and not busy!) junction.

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

[Liquid Knight]

The late signal demonstrates they're not paying attention. Either that or letting you out would take at least six seconds of their valuable time. Some of us were brought up not dragged up.

[mrfunex]

Because most drivers are morons, only driving to the end of their bonnet on autopilot and have no clue about their surroundings, other cars, or any sense of courtesy whatsoever?

Am I close?

[tinman0]

TonyRPH said:

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

Can't see what the problem is as he has right of way and he's not obliged to flash you out either.

The fault is your's for not taking the opportunity to take the right turn in good time. Minor fault on the driving test iirc

HTH

[Glassman]

It's more/most annoying when a car approaching from the right does it.

When someone does it from the left, it makes you feel like the sole purpose of your journey was to stop at that junction and wait for the ignorant b'stard to scuttle past you without acknowledgment.

[nogsk]

Probably because they're just plain ignorant and are focusing 3 feet in front of their cars.
Get's on my nerves too, people just don't want to let you out nowadays, courtesy is now a poor second place to time.

[soad]

It's a Monday morning, after the weekend. Some are not fully functioning yet

[mrfunex]

Because until their indicator comes on, there's usually no indication that the other car isn't going to drive straight on.

[Glassman]

...or is this a thinly-veiled bit of advertising?

[zip929]

Saving their indicator bulbs. Very money conscious modern drivers.

[TonyRPH]

tinman0 said:

TonyRPH said:

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

Can't see what the problem is as he has right of way and he's not obliged to flash you out either.

The fault is your's for not taking the opportunity to take the right turn in good time. Minor fault on the driving test iirc

HTH

Unfortunately that's not the case!

This piece of road is a 40 zone - but you would think it's NSL the speed at which some folk approach.... (it used to be an NSL but was reduced to 40 about 2 years ago).

Of course that again points to those who fail to pay attention to speed lmit signs etc. - but you would have thought that after 2 years most people would have realised...

Hmm maybe not.

[Liquid Knight]

zip929 said:

Saving their indicator bulbs. Very money conscious modern drivers.

Each flash makes the alternator work increasing the friction of the belt reducing the engine output to the wheels. By not indicating he's putting an extra 0.0000613bhp on the road.

[TonyRPH]

Glassman said:

...or is this a thinly-veiled bit of advertising?

None of the above.

My good wife actually works in that road, and I drop her off each morning.

She doesn't work for any of the companies listed there.

[tinman0]

TonyRPH said:

Unfortunately that's not the case!

This piece of road is a 40 zone - but you would think it's NSL the speed at which some folk approach.... (it used to be an NSL but was reduced to 40 about 2 years ago).

Of course that again points to those who fail to pay attention to speed lmit signs etc. - but you would have thought that after 2 years most people would have realised...

Hmm maybe not.

I'm still not following you as he has right of way through out this, regardless of his intentions to turn right. You are just a bit part player at the end of the road waiting for a safe time to pull out.

[Ullevi]

mrfunex said:

Because most drivers are morons, only driving to the end of their bonnet on autopilot and have no clue about their surroundings, other cars, or any sense of courtesy whatsoever?

Am I close?

Yep.

Sums it up nicely.

[grgrgray]

tinman0 said:

TonyRPH said:

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

Can't see what the problem is as he has right of way and he's not obliged to flash you out either.

The fault is your's for not taking the opportunity to take the right turn in good time. Minor fault on the driving test iirc

HTH

This.

He is probably being courteous to the traffic behind him. Usually me who has sat behind the guy at 40MPH thru a NSL.

[Thorburn]

Okay he indicated late, but I won't flash someone out if there is nothing behind me and nothing coming the other way - by the time they've realised you're letting them go and managed to pull away it would probably have been quicker to just go about my business.

If there was a massive train of cars behind me, or a gap in traffic the other way on a busy road, then I would.

[TonyRPH]

tinman0 said:

TonyRPH said:

Unfortunately that's not the case!

This piece of road is a 40 zone - but you would think it's NSL the speed at which some folk approach.... (it used to be an NSL but was reduced to 40 about 2 years ago).

Of course that again points to those who fail to pay attention to speed lmit signs etc. - but you would have thought that after 2 years most people would have realised...

Hmm maybe not.

I'm still not following you as he has right of way through out this, regardless of his intentions to turn right. You are just a bit part player at the end of the road waiting for a safe time to pull out.

I'm not disputing who has right of way.

I'm just looking for a bit of courtesy that's all. Surely not too much to ask?

[braddo]

TonyRPH said:

Sat at a 'T' junction waiting to turn right. (see map)

Absolutely no traffic approaching from right.

One single car approaching from left - so I sit and wait...

At the very last second, said driver indicates to turn right.

This happens to me frequently at this particular (and not busy!) junction.

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

Unless the road you're turning into is busy I don't get why you think they should flash you out - it's not as if you have to wait long to do your manoeuvre afterwards. They should indicate earlier though, which would give you enough of a signal to go (assuming enough time/space).

[TonyRPH]

braddo said:

TonyRPH said:

Sat at a 'T' junction waiting to turn right. (see map)

Absolutely no traffic approaching from right.

One single car approaching from left - so I sit and wait...

At the very last second, said driver indicates to turn right.

This happens to me frequently at this particular (and not busy!) junction.

Why can't some people show a bit of courtesy, and simply flash a person out?

Unless the road you're turning into is busy I don't get why you think they should flash you out - it's not as if you have to wait long to do your manoeuvre afterwards. They should indicate earlier though, which would give you enough of a signal to go (assuming enough time/space).

I agree when there's only a single car.

But this frequently happens even when there is a trail of cars approaching (from the left, behind the person who at the last minute decides they're turning)..

I guess I'm looking at this from my point of view.

I indicate in good time, to ensure that all around me are aware of my intentions.

If I see a break in the traffic, I will flash a person out of a junction, given that I know they could often be left waiting in some cases for several minutes.

My general feeling (and the point of this post) was that there are some selfish* drivers on the roads, and I was trying to understand what make (some) people like this...

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