TorqueFlow
TorqueFlow
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mrcabbage

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41 posts

297 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Anyone fitted one of these? Any good?

http://www.torquev8.com/index.html

pwd95

8,459 posts

269 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Discussed in depth over the last year or two. Do a search, you should get plenty of results to browse through. thumbup

mrcabbage

Original Poster:

41 posts

297 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Thanks, now realise that Advanced Search gives results whereas basic search does not

blitzracing

6,422 posts

251 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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The Torque flow has two elements to it. One is to enlarge the throttle plate in the plenum chamber, and this will give the instant result of making the car feel quicker for less throttle pedal movement, as it lets in more air. It wont however actually give you any more power unless your engine is highly tuned 5tr that is restricted by the Plenum inlet size- which brings us on to the next bit nicely, the AFM. The torque flow uses exactly the same electronic guts as the standard AFM, but with the airflow sensor now placed in a much larger aluminium tube. The idea is to reduce the possible bottle neck caused by the AFM (that becomes and issue at around 250 bhp plus), but in doing so it alters the voltage from the AFM for any given airflow, and the sensor mounting position is not ideal as it causes turbulence so the output is not that stable. This also means that the ECU will need re chipping to compensate for the new readings, but as we know this is not easily done. What Torque flow have done is taken stock TVR chips with different fuel maps, and tried to crudely match them to the new AFM response, but you can only go so far. The AFM electronics is then tweaked to try and get it nearer what the TVR fuel map needs. This involves lot of road testing and tweaking of resistors until the car runs somewhere near correctly. Please take into account the ECU can also make +/- 20 fuelling corrections so it can take a lot of abuse this way, but will simply makes the car a pig to drive as it reaches its limits and this very analogue approach means each Torque flow is matched to each car. I have not worked on one of these in the last couple of years, so its possible they have improved over the example I saw, but I would not recommend it if they have not. If you have a 270+ BHP car an enlarged AFM can gain a few horse power, and a much more precise way of getting the fuelling correct and increased airflow is to simply use a Bosch AFM, and the correct fuel map chip from Mr Adams or ACT, no messing about.

Edited by blitzracing on Monday 15th November 20:20

neal1980

2,585 posts

270 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I know of one for sale for a 450 ECU and Torqueflow, if you need his details let me know.

Neal

macdeb

8,760 posts

286 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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It works very well,yes [the dyno at the Griff' growl commented that it was one of the best fuelled 450's he'd seen].