RE: Lamborghini Unveils New V12 Powertrain
RE: Lamborghini Unveils New V12 Powertrain
Monday 15th November 2010

Lamborghini Unveils New V12 Powertrain

Lightweight engine makes 700hp and features innovative gearbox



Automobili Lamborghini has revealed an all-new 6.5 litre V12 power plant and automated manual transmission that will enter service in 2011 with the Murcielago replacement.

The new 6.5-litre, 235kg engine was designed from a clean sheet of paper, says Lamborghini, despite retaining its predecessor's displacement. Output has been boosted to a stonking 700hp at 8,250rpm, with maximum torque of 509lb ft available at 5,500rpm.

"High-revving joy, stunning sound", is what the company promises in its press release today.

"Even in the world of super sports cars, 700hp at 8,250 rpm sets a new benchmark. The extremely well-rounded torque curve, beefy pulling power in every situation, incredibly spontaneous responsiveness and, not least, the finely modulated but always highly emotional acoustics make this engine a stunning power unit of the very highest order," the text proclaims.

There's more where that came from, too:

"For optimum weight, the crankcase and the four-valve cylinder heads are made from aluminum-silicon alloy, while the short-stroke layout ensures exceptional high-revving performance and very low internal friction. A lengthy process of fine tuning perfected the thermal management system for the high-performance power unit, as well as the oil circulation system with dry-sump lubrication. The intake system with four individual throttle valves is highly complex - an extremely well-rounded torque curve and outstanding pulling power across the rev range the reward.

"The exhaust system delivers the lowest emission levels, as well as that unmistakable, spine-tingling Lamborghini sound - from a moderate rumble when cruising through the city at low revs to the howling crescendo of gears at their limits."

It all sounds right up our street, and there's innovation on the gearbox side too. Lamborghini says its intention is to create the world's most emotional gearshift feel (whatever that means), and its new manual gearbox combines extremely fast shift times - almost 50 per cent shorter than with a dual-clutch transmission - with the benefits of low weight and compact dimensions.

"The low shift times are enabled through the transmission's particular design, known as ISR (Independent Shifting Rod). Instead of taking place in series, as with a conventional gearbox, shifting can occur virtually in parallel. While one shifting rod is moving out of one gear, the second shifting rod can already engage the next. Moreover, the transmission weighs only 79 kilograms - a distinct benefit, even against comparable DSG transmissions, which are considerably heavier," says Lambo.

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scubadude

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2,619 posts

219 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Thank God!

Nice to see the madness of Lamborghini has proveiled over the green, economy minded types at other manufactures thats seen engines get smaller but gain turbos and other nonsense.

Heres to hoping the next Lambo is another screaming asylm dodging lunatic of a car :-)

Salom

230 posts

198 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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scubadude said:
Thank God!

Nice to see the madness of Lamborghini has proveiled over the green, economy minded types at other manufactures thats seen engines get smaller but gain turbos and other nonsense.

Heres to hoping the next Lambo is another screaming asylm dodging lunatic of a car :-)
Prevailed...

j_s14a

872 posts

200 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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scubadude said:
Thank God!

Nice to see the madness of Lamborghini has proveiled over the green, economy minded types at other manufactures thats seen engines get smaller but gain turbos and other nonsense.

Heres to hoping the next Lambo is another screaming asylm dodging lunatic of a car :-)


They may not mention it here, but i'd fully expect this new powerplant to be 'green' compared to the old one. I suspect there will be a fair increase in MPG and decrease emissions compared to the old engine smile

MogulBoy

3,057 posts

245 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Yum. Would like to see more comparative weight stats...

It always struck me that the old engine and tranmission was absolutely mahoosive and when I see used to see it on display on a cradle at the motorshow, I can't help being reminded of this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyK5CdZCaaE

[2:25]


willisit

2,167 posts

253 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Nice to see the word "manual" being used with regards to transmission, too.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

216 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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willisit said:
Nice to see the word "manual" being used with regards to transmission, too.
Though, not quite sure how they get away with calling it an automated manual. That's oxymoron surely?

al1991

4,552 posts

202 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Yes! Long live the V12!

LuS1fer

43,161 posts

267 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Let's hope they don't call it the Aventador then - see my thread in Motoring News.

andyp74199

141 posts

213 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Its great to hear they're sticking with the V12 format. Now if they'll just offer a 0% finance deal over 40 years with free insurance, tax and fuel i'll sign up biggrin

Kong

1,503 posts

193 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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scubadude said:
Thank God!

Nice to see the madness of Lamborghini has proveiled over the green, economy minded types at other manufactures thats seen engines get smaller but gain turbos and other nonsense.

Heres to hoping the next Lambo is another screaming asylm dodging lunatic of a car :-)
I agree 100% 'N/A' and 'V12' are my two favourite words to do with engines. I honestly didn't think Lamborghini would do another biggrin

Essex Exile

390 posts

215 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Let's hope there isn't a Lamborghini badged VW UP!, to get their Co2 average down

LukeBird

17,170 posts

231 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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So will it come with a 'proper' manual shift, or just the Automated one?
Interesting they're not going twin-clutch...

leon9191

752 posts

215 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Will the be doing a manually operated manual gear box as well though?

Does sound pretty light for such a big motor, the Veyrons W16 is circa 450kg I was reading the other day.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

280 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Nice to see they recognise the emotional satisfaction of changing gear manually too. Sounds like they've managed to combine DSG technology (or something similar) with the traditional three-pedal, H-gate layout.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

220 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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235kg - ouch.

R500POP

8,985 posts

232 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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rhinochopig said:
235kg - ouch.
Not that heavy for a V15 & it's transmission is it?

zakelwe

4,449 posts

220 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I'd quite like to see a 2/3 version of this in that 1000kg carbon show car, the V8 would produce about 460bhp and give both huge performance and be green-ish. I think they are sticking with V10 for the smaller car though.

Will be interesting to see how smooth that very fast single clutch semi auto box is.

Andy


ManOpener

12,467 posts

191 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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R500POP said:
rhinochopig said:
235kg - ouch.
Not that heavy for a V15 & it's transmission is it?
Not for a road car, by any stretch of the imagination. That sad, Judd GV5.5's weigh in at 135kg engine-only, and under 200 with a race box and clutch.

Edited by ManOpener on Monday 15th November 13:55

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

220 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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R500POP said:
rhinochopig said:
235kg - ouch.
Not that heavy for a V15 & it's transmission is it?
As the article said it's much lighter than the previous. However, I'm a big believer in performance through lightness - 235kg to get 700bhp is a lot of kg. Personally I'd rather have a third that weight in a small V8 giving 500bhp - but that's just me. Given the option I'd take a Caparo over a Lambo. Or as the poster above says the 1000kg concept.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

215 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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LukeBird said:
So will it come with a 'proper' manual shift, or just the Automated one?
Interesting they're not going twin-clutch...
This story was in Autocar about 5 months ago(they do get it right sometimes) and the story read that only this version would be available..suppose we have to wait for the official word