Door bells with cameras?
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chris watton

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22,547 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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We just bought a house in Gloucester (after finally selling our Italian house!), but it needs work! We are having new double glazing throughout and a new front and back door. I would like a door bell with a camera, so that you can see who it is outside the door, but I have searched the internet, and it seems you need 'electro magnetic' locks for these! Are there any more simple solutions?

Cheers

mgtony

4,166 posts

214 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Saw this new in Screwfix, it does'nt have a bell but looks quite tidy as a viewing solution. Click on the "more images" for a pic of the screen.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55228/Security/Door-...

Just seen it's got a press button on the outside part, so maybe it is a bell aswell.

Edited by mgtony on Wednesday 17th November 11:14

cpas

1,661 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I think you can get cameras with PIRs which will automatically put the picture onto your telly when activated. These have the advantage of being able to view someone before they ring the doorball (or if they chose not to for some reason).

motco

17,410 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Friedland Visiocam looks as if it meets your need.

NiceCupOfTea

25,549 posts

275 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I rather like the IP camera solution - weatherproof outside one, or normal interior one pointed through window. They come either wired or wireless, and can be remote positionable. Picture viewable on any net connection (laptop, desktop, phone, remotely) etc.

Can even use it as a security device when you are away to keep an eye on your cars / house etc, and can send you a text/email when they detect movement (Panasonic ones do anyway!)

s1962a

7,449 posts

186 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Eggman

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235 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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You don't need electro-magnetic locks. I fitted one of these to my elderly mum's front door - bit of a bargain at £70.



As you can see, once fitted to your front door it acts like a magnet for attractive young women. The one in the picture turned up whilst I was installing it and I had to retreat into the house to escape her improper suggestions.

There's another slight drawback in that you have to push a different button to activate the camera depending on whether or not the person outside rang the doorbell. The microphone is fairly directional too - if the caller isn't facing it you can't hear them very well.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

269 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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NiceCupOfTea said:
I rather like the IP camera solution - weatherproof outside one, or normal interior one pointed through window. They come either wired or wireless, and can be remote positionable. Picture viewable on any net connection (laptop, desktop, phone, remotely) etc.

Can even use it as a security device when you are away to keep an eye on your cars / house etc, and can send you a text/email when they detect movement (Panasonic ones do anyway!)
An IP camera still need to be wired in ( it needs power).

Unless you are spending a lot of money the lens / camera electronics is unlikely to be suitable for filming detail at distances far enough to provide cover for your car etc.

Fitting the camera inside a window will render it useless if the lights are on in the room at night or if it has built in infra red illumination.

You will need to purchase a network storage device etc if you want to store footage to protect cars etc. Using a computer means the computer must be left running 24 hours a day and your CCTV load with impact on the computer's performance. If you find it strains the hard drive to the point where it fails you will loose all your data stored on the computer.

IP cameras can suffer interference / network overload problems depending on routers, where installed etc.

Like for like an IP camera is around 3 times the price of a traditional wired camera.

As you can see at the moment we are not huge IP camera fans. One appeal is that they can use cat5 cabling, but so can traditional cameras. All you need are a pair of baluns per camera which are a little over £5 a pair !!

Henry smile

MkGriff

716 posts

305 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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motco said:
Friedland Visiocam looks as if it meets your need.
We have the VIS3322 and it is great. It will interrupt the current TV channel and show you who is at the door, or unplug it and remove from the charger and take it into your garden..... No wires and easy to install/use.

motco

17,410 posts

270 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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MkGriff said:
motco said:
Friedland Visiocam looks as if it meets your need.
We have the VIS3322 and it is great. It will interrupt the current TV channel and show you who is at the door, or unplug it and remove from the charger and take it into your garden..... No wires and easy to install/use.
Yep, me too. Bet I paid less than you did though. Mine was remaindered in Homebase for £16 smile

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

284 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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motco said:
MkGriff said:
motco said:
Friedland Visiocam looks as if it meets your need.
We have the VIS3322 and it is great. It will interrupt the current TV channel and show you who is at the door, or unplug it and remove from the charger and take it into your garden..... No wires and easy to install/use.
Yep, me too. Bet I paid less than you did though. Mine was remaindered in Homebase for £16 smile
Cheers, everyone. I shall get the one mentioned above smile

NiceCupOfTea

25,549 posts

275 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Henry-F said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
I rather like the IP camera solution - weatherproof outside one, or normal interior one pointed through window. They come either wired or wireless, and can be remote positionable. Picture viewable on any net connection (laptop, desktop, phone, remotely) etc.

Can even use it as a security device when you are away to keep an eye on your cars / house etc, and can send you a text/email when they detect movement (Panasonic ones do anyway!)
An IP camera still need to be wired in ( it needs power).

Unless you are spending a lot of money the lens / camera electronics is unlikely to be suitable for filming detail at distances far enough to provide cover for your car etc.

Fitting the camera inside a window will render it useless if the lights are on in the room at night or if it has built in infra red illumination.

You will need to purchase a network storage device etc if you want to store footage to protect cars etc. Using a computer means the computer must be left running 24 hours a day and your CCTV load with impact on the computer's performance. If you find it strains the hard drive to the point where it fails you will loose all your data stored on the computer.

IP cameras can suffer interference / network overload problems depending on routers, where installed etc.

Like for like an IP camera is around 3 times the price of a traditional wired camera.

As you can see at the moment we are not huge IP camera fans. One appeal is that they can use cat5 cabling, but so can traditional cameras. All you need are a pair of baluns per camera which are a little over £5 a pair !!

Henry smile
That is all true Henry, I was just presenting an alternative! Just to address your points: Any camera is going to need power and probably a signal cable. Any camera suitable for monitoring a car is going to be significantly more expensive than a doorbell entry camera! Exterior motion sensitive lighting combined with IP camera would be enough for keeping an eye on a car, hardly foolproof but not bad for a cheap solution. A lot of people have NAS on their computers these days and they're hardly expensive. Yes they are more expensive than a doorbell camera but they are a lot more versatile.

It was just a thought!

Westy Pre-Lit

5,088 posts

227 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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gadjet man said:
Hi,
I had the same problem and i found just the thing on cctvbell.co.uk.
So you bought the company winkhehe

PugwasHDJ80

7,654 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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but you do work for the company yes?

zaphod42

58,181 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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That site looks dodgy as heck..

No trading address, for a start - as required by trading standards - looks fly by night....

Stu R

21,463 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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gadjet man said:
I wish....ha whistle
You probably don't, being as it's not a company. Or so the lack of company info, address, and details are absent from the website.
Well, that and the fact a quick whois check shows it as...

Domain name:
cctvbell.co.uk

Registrant:
A Okeefe

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.


Hi Google smile

Edited by Stu R on Thursday 15th September 14:47

Westy Pre-Lit

5,088 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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zaphod42 said:
That site looks dodgy as heck..

No trading address, for a start - as required by trading standards - looks fly by night....
It make me wonder when you could only contact by email.

motco

17,410 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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That is the Friedland Visiobell as mentioned earlier. The rpoduct is no longer on the Friedland website so I assume it's discontinued. Maybe someone bought a job-lot?