To stop or not to stop. That is the question.
To stop or not to stop. That is the question.
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Handie Andy

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371 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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[vent] So i took my driving test this morning, thought i was doing a good job too. I knew i fked up a few times by not looking in my offside mirror when getting back in lane.

Anyway i get back to the test centre to be told i failed because i did not stop at the stop sign?. I immediately responded saying i did stop, i know i stopped without a question of doubt.
He replied 'You could have kept your foot on the brake a little longer' opened the door and walked off.

The sign said stop and i fking stopped, if the sign said stop and wait 30 seconds thats what i would of done.

My instructor tells me too chalk it down to experiance a £105 experiance that is. [/vented]

P.s im glad he walked off because i would of had no licence and an assault charge. smashlaugh


Conian

8,030 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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It does have to be a definate stop.
Don't even begin to look to see if it's clear until you have stopped.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Would have done..

Would have had...


HTH...smile


Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

214 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Yep, Examiners are anal, but you have to show you know what the difference is between a stop and a give way, some people would hesitate longer at a give way than a good driver at a stop sign and they will see both ends of the spectrum.

Check your mirrors, stop and have a good look around (mirrors included) then go.

"Check then check again for bikes"

Don't stop for too long though, if it isn't clear apply the hand brake!

louismchuge

1,644 posts

206 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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experiance

experience

Bad luck though - I was taught to put the handbrake on briefly at stop signs to acknowledge you've seen it

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I "technically" went through a red light in my HGV1 test. I argued the case and passed.

The green bulb for my lane was dead. I took the examiner around the block again and waited for 3 cycles of the lights and the green didn't come back on. He got bored of waiting before I did. hehe

ShadownINja

79,235 posts

304 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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doogz said:
I was taught that at a stop sign, you had to come to a complete halt, engage the handbrake and select neutral, before selecting first, observing, moving off etc.

Is that not the case?
If that's what you have to do in the exam, fair enough but in the real world, dead stop, look, move, rather than at a give way sign, roll very slowly while checking or just checking while moving at a slowish pace, if you see what I mean.

Handie Andy

Original Poster:

371 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Every time i went out on a lesson the instructor would happen to find me a stop sign. I would stop and then look for traffic just like i did this morning, he seems fine with it. My instructer is not a rookie either he is adi and ordit (Trains instructors).

It was never mentioned that i was to put the handbrake on or out like that just stop at the line.

Next time i will be putting the handbrake on, it just pissed me off that i did what the sign instructed and got penalised for it.

Other than that it was a pass with 7 minors.

illmonkey

19,559 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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It happened to my girlfriend years ago. She failed for going in the right lane for straight on, fair enough. She only done this as the instructor had told her to stay in the right lane along the dual carriageway.

Next test, same examiner, she went into the left lane on the SAME roundabout and got failed for being in the left lane.

She says she passed as the instructor was new to the area (that morning) and got lost, so he asked to just get him back.


MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Were you in a hurry?

Distant

2,430 posts

215 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I teach my learners to put the handbrake on at a STOP sign. That way there can be no doubt in the examiners mind that you have actually stopped.

Better luck next time.

pokethepope

2,666 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I failed my first test for lifting off on the run-up to a line of mini-roundabouts. So much for driving carefully and considerately in a driving test!

The Wookie

14,186 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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If you're telling it word for word as it happened then it sounds like he wanted to fail you. Either he didn't like your driving or your instructor.

hoppo4.2

1,548 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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even when i took my test 10 years a go my instructor told me to use hand brake at a stop sign.

ShadownINja

79,235 posts

304 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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doogz said:
ShadownINja said:
doogz said:
I was taught that at a stop sign, you had to come to a complete halt, engage the handbrake and select neutral, before selecting first, observing, moving off etc.

Is that not the case?
If that's what you have to do in the exam, fair enough but in the real world, dead stop, look, move, rather than at a give way sign, roll very slowly while checking or just checking while moving at a slowish pace, if you see what I mean.
Yeah.

But the point is, he was on his test. And didn't do what you, me, and someone else seem to recall you are supposed to do on your test.
I agreed with you the first time. smile

Feel a bit sorry for the OPer.

markmullen

15,877 posts

256 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Easiest way to show stopping at a stop sign in a test environment, handbrake on, then back off again.

hewitt44

3 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I failed my first driving test for driving over the paint on the mini white islands that are painted in the roads :/

911motorsport

7,251 posts

255 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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WTF!?

I was told not to use my handbrake or stop too long at a Stop sign as I could be failed on
Undue Hesitancy

Me thinks he had passed his quota for the day.

Distant

2,430 posts

215 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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911motorsport said:
WTF!?

I was told not to use my handbrake or stop too long at a Stop sign as I could be failed on
Undue Hesitancy

Me thinks he had passed his quota for the day.
You were told wrong! Applying the handbrake is not in itself a sign of undue hesitancy.

There are no quotas. He may have been an arse, or having a bad day or whatever, but there aren't quotassmile

TuxRacer

13,816 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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I'd have gone beserk.

In fact I did.

I was told at the end of my test that I'd failed for not reversing into a parking bay when asked to. Given that I'd been using reverse gear I was somewhat perplexed as to what he thought he'd just witnessed and having failed previously I wasn't so shy about letting him know what I thought.

Eventually we established that I'd turned the front end of the car away from the bay so as to reduce the angle that I reversed into the bay, from the 90 degree angle the examiner expected. To my mind that was closer to reverse than his suggestion! Eventually he agreed to let me try it his way, which I did flawlessly, while shaking with anger, and he reversed(!) his decision. My parents were somewhat bemused at what they were watching while they waited for the test to finish!

Sadly I suspect many of them are dullards. I wouldn't have let it go easily.