Wet floor

[Ian187]

After driving my new Noble home in the rain today, I noticed the footwell driver side and passenger side carpet is very wet
I guess I need to get under the car and start applying some sealant in appropriate places??? There is also water on the floor at the rear of the seat.
Obviously feeling a bit disheartened after just buying the car, so fingers crossed it's easy enough to sort out, but is this a usual issue with the 3R?
Any advice for how to fix it or what to use?

[wessexrfc]

Don't feel too disheartened, they all do that . Its a fiddle of a job, but you need to drop the floor and reseal. Mine had been fine upto know, but then sarted leaking, so it will be sealed over the winter.

[jdearden]

I think all noble owners have had wet feet at some point. mine is awful but dropping the floor off this weekend to reaseal it.

[Ian187]

wessexrfc said:

Don't feel too disheartened, they all do that . Its a fiddle of a job, but you need to drop the floor and reseal. Mine had been fine upto know, but then sarted leaking, so it will be sealed over the winter.

Thanks Wessexrfc that's reassuring to know - what do you mean though when you say "drop the floor" sorry for seeming naive, but is the floor a single piece that's bloted to the chasis or something, which I need to take off and seal???

[The devil]

Ian
Welcome
Dropping the floor off is no problem
I did mine last Christmas
You need to get the car up off the floor so you can work underneath
Then you need to drill the rivets out,
I replaced my floor and it cost me all of eighty quid by ordering a sheet of aluminium on line
Then apply some neoprene which is available from e bay
A couple of tubes of sikoflex
Then either screw or rivet it up again
It will take you and a mate a day but it's not that bad

[mgbond]

Its a bit harder when not on a ramp but the worst bit is removing all the previous sealant.

Good luck

[R0162]

Its not so much of a bad job once you get stuck in, make sure you jack the car at the right points so the floor pan can be removed.
Remove the seats with 8 allen key bolts, be wary as some may be cross threaded so be careful not to round them off, remove the tunnel vents, drill off the rivet heads with a 6mm HSS drill bit then your ready to drop the floor pan, push down on it from above, some of the carpet is fixed to the chassis with some horrible insulation material and this is glued to the floor pan, carefully peel this off unless you want to put new carpet, i personally would put new carpet and insulation as the insulation they used was never meant to get wet and goes all rotten and sodden, my choice of replacement sound/heat insulation is 12mm Dynaliner, but you also have the perfect opportunity to Dynamat the floor pan which will reduce road noise considerably, also you now have easy access to the tunnel so if you want to add some rear speakers then now is the time.
Get a hole puch and punch the shank of the rivets inside the chassis frame they will live there from now on, now start to remove the old sealant, it will be alot easier with the rivet shanks out of the way and if your lucky will peel off in big strips.
Clean up the floor pan, if it is too badly oxidized and has been eaten away then you can buy replacements from the online shop at Peter smith sports cars, but you will have to overlay and redrill with a 3.5mm HSS drill bit, put a bead of sealant over the chassis members and the floor pan is ready to be put back into place.
If you decide to refix with screws then get 4mm and they bite perfectly into the existing holes, if you decide to use rivets then it is still worth while holding it up with screws at the corners while you get the rivets in, i have always done this as a one man job.

A days work should have it all sorted.

[mgbond]

Don't forget the waxol to A: stop the rivets bouncing about and B; protecting the chassis inside.

Bondy

[Ian187]

Chaps - your replies are amazing, I can't thank you enough. It seems a bit daunting, but encouraging that it can be done in a day.

I need to work out the logistics of this 'cause this is my day to day car! so if I take it to pieces I need to make sure I've got all the bits I will need to put it back together again!

Thanks again and if any of you are itching to take the floor off another Noble, then let me know ha ha....

[The devil]

Ian187 said:

Chaps - your replies are amazing, I can't thank you enough. It seems a bit daunting, but encouraging that it can be done in a day.

I need to work out the logistics of this 'cause this is my day to day car! so if I take it to pieces I need to make sure I've got all the bits I will need to put it back together again!

Thanks again and if any of you are itching to take the floor off another Noble, then let me know ha ha....

to think i was in bath at the weekend

[Ian187]

The devil said:

Ian187 said:

Chaps - your replies are amazing, I can't thank you enough. It seems a bit daunting, but encouraging that it can be done in a day.

I need to work out the logistics of this 'cause this is my day to day car! so if I take it to pieces I need to make sure I've got all the bits I will need to put it back together again!

Thanks again and if any of you are itching to take the floor off another Noble, then let me know ha ha....

to think i was in bath at the weekend

Next time you're in Bath mate, give me a shout and then we can have 2 people staring at my wet floor

[TuxMan]

Hi Ian , you could try cleaning up the floor and tapeing the joint up with a tin foil tape ,might help for a while !!

[Ian187]

TuxMan said:

Hi Ian , you could try cleaning up the floor and tapeing the joint up with a tin foil tape ,might help for a while !!

Thanks Tuxman good shout with the tin foil tape - I'll check it out this weekend and see what's involved.

[TuxMan]

i would use wirewool and a de-greasing agent before i put the tape on , think demon tweeks sell 2" wide stuff , if you look underneath you will see the joints in the alloy floor ,starting at the front and work back :-)

[F.C.]

Might be worth checking rear window seals also as this has been a common spot for water ingress, makes its way down the baulkhead and into the foot well.

[Ian187]

Guys, what sealant do you use for this job? Silkoflex 291??? or something different?

[TuxMan]

Ian187 said:

Guys, what sealant do you use for this job? Silkoflex 291??? or something different?

silkoflex is good stuff !! i suppose clear silicone would do as well , main concern is what to put the floor back on with !!

[Ian187]

TuxMan said:

silkoflex is good stuff !! i suppose clear silicone would do as well , main concern is what to put the floor back on with !!

Ohh!! What do you put the floor back on with?
Assuming you mean the carpet and insulation, I was thinking about using Evo Stick contact adhesive.. (other brands are available). Do you have any recomendations?

[funkybmx1]

I like his style

[TuxMan]

noooooo alloy floor ....rivets or something else :-)