Tax disc displaying - kitcar

[Docevi1]

I have a quick question for the BiB if I may.

I own a little kit-car and I'm concerned about the tax-disc been pinched, at the moment it's in the windscreen on the bottom left with a natty holder and is in no way secure.

As I see it I have 2 options:

the first to get a "secure-it" holder which destroys the disc if you take it off. What if a I ever get a Producer or need to send the disc back, will the Polic accept it on the car and in the later ripped?

or the second get a Motorcycle style holder and attach it on the left hand side of the car somewhere.


Speaking to a policeman he said that I could display it anywhere on the left-hand-side so long as it was easy to see and it wasn't hidden. Unfortunately he wasn't completly sure and I would like a definite answer before I change it...

Any helpers? Thank you.

[Dwight VanDriver]

Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regs 2002

Reg 3
Each such licence shall be fixed to the vehicle in a holder sufficient to protect the licence from the weather to which it would otherwise be exposed.

Reg 4...........in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen;

in the case of any other vehicle - ............. on the near side of the vehicle in front of the driver's seat and not less than 760 mm and not more than 1.8 metres above the surface of the road.

Vehicle Excise and Regiustration Act 1994
Sect 33 Offence not display a current Excise Licence. (Plus other henious offences of displaying look alikes and Guiness Labels (very bad news)

DVD

[Steve-B]

most kit cars, like se7ens use the screw on the scuttle on the LH windscreen side to affix a motorcycle disc holder -- with no problems

[pdV6]

After my dad had his disc nicked from the TR, he was advised to display a photocopy and keep the original for producers. Never needed to produce it yet...

[KITT]

I mount mine on the exhaust on the driver's side:

www.cate1.co.uk/dirty3.jpg

Never had a problem with it there even if it is technically illegal! It would take a police officer in a very bad mood to prosecute you for it!

[Davel]

Maybe the BiB on this site would comment but would like to think that, like motorbikes, you don't have to actually display it, provided you keep it with you when driving.

I had one nicked off my bike and was told by the local police station that carrying in with you would be sufficient as most BiB realise how easily they can be nicked off bikes and soft tops etc.

Maybe its up to the individual copper but surely most would find this a reasonable stance to take.

[pdV6]

Davel said:

Maybe the BiB on this site would comment but would like to think that, like motorbikes, you don't have to actually display it, provided you keep it with you when driving.

Trouble is, with a car you'd probably find a nice sticky note on your screen with a FPN for "failure to display" when you get back from the pub/shops/whatever.

[cmsapms]

I also was worried about scrotes nicking my tax disk, so I use a bike tax disc holder bolted through one of the redundant windscreen boltholes - I've got an aeroscreen now. A determined thief could still nick it, but it takes me 20 minutes out of each year to put the new disc in, and lowlife scum doesn't have that sort of attention span

The holder's a faux carbon backplate with a gold anodised bezel, and is just too tarty for words

Just visible here between the screen and NS mirror.

[url]http://pub.se7ens.net/pictures/cars/yeeehaaa.jpg[/url]

Paul

[docevi1]

nice pictures

pdV6, my dad works for the police and asked around in there as well (still no definite reply from them either ) and was told with a photo-copy I'd get done for forging documents, failure to display and a vehicle been on the road with not road-tax.

I'll give my local police station a call and ask them, I'm already nervous about driving the car as it is...

[silverback mike]

Davel said:

Maybe the BiB on this site would comment but would like to think that, like motorbikes, you don't have to actually display it, provided you keep it with you when driving. I had one nicked off my bike and was told by the local police station that carrying in with you would be sufficient as most BiB realise how easily they can be nicked off bikes and soft tops etc. Maybe its up to the individual copper but surely most would find this a reasonable stance to take.

I would find that perfectly acceptable.

[pdV6]

docevi1 said:

my dad works for the police and asked around in there as well (still no definite reply from them either ) and was told with a photo-copy I'd get done for forging documents, failure to display and a vehicle been on the road with not road-tax.

Nice to see a consistent approach!

[Dwight VanDriver]

Photocopies (while sensible in context of what discussed above) is at law a no no.

There is a serious recordable offence of forgery under the Vehicle Excise and Reg Act 1994 (S44) but there has to be an intent to deceive - which is absent.

So back to Reg 7 R.V (Reg & Lic) Regs 2002 which states that no person shall exhibit on a vehicle used/kept on a road which :
a) is intended to be, or
b) reasonably be
mistaken for a Vehicle Licence whilst for the time being in force. &1000 fine max

(and also the offence of failing to display a current Licence)

You are of course permitted now and again to breathe.....

DVD

[docevi1]

Just spoken to a Police man at my local nick and he said "so long as it's in a secure holder, and on display it's fine". I asked specific side, "left", anywhere in particular, "left hand side".

Job done.

thank you