How much compensation can we claim
Discussion
I'm a member of a model aircraft flying club and we rent a piece of a farmers field. It's on an old WW2 airfield and our flying patch is at the junction of two old concrete taxiways though we fly off grass that we laid and we mow and look after it regularly. The site's right out in the countryside, some considerable way from the nearest houses and we don't cause anybody any problems. We're affiliated with the BMFA and do everything correctly and legally.
Being in such a remote area there's a planning application in to put windmills around the farm and two of them would be in such a position as to stop our activities. We couldn't really fly our "toys" and risk damaging either them or the windmills, they'll be just too close.
We've been here about 15 years and whilst we don't have a written lease as such, it's all verbal, we do pay rent by cheque each year. So anyone any idea where we stand? What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
Being in such a remote area there's a planning application in to put windmills around the farm and two of them would be in such a position as to stop our activities. We couldn't really fly our "toys" and risk damaging either them or the windmills, they'll be just too close.
We've been here about 15 years and whilst we don't have a written lease as such, it's all verbal, we do pay rent by cheque each year. So anyone any idea where we stand? What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
ColinM50 said:
Being in such a remote area there's a planning application in to put windmills around the farm and two of them would be in such a position as to stop our activities. We couldn't really fly our "toys" and risk damaging either them or the windmills, they'll be just too close.
We've been here about 15 years and whilst we don't have a written lease as such, it's all verbal, we do pay rent by cheque each year. So anyone any idea where we stand? What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
So the windmills won't be on the farmer's land and you don't have a written agreement with the farmer?We've been here about 15 years and whilst we don't have a written lease as such, it's all verbal, we do pay rent by cheque each year. So anyone any idea where we stand? What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
You get the square root of s0d all....
I'd find a new place to fly.
I can understand it being annoying but have you sat back and reread that from an outsiders point of view?
You make it sum up everything that is wrong with this country.
Going through the facts.
You rent land
You have a verbal agreement
You have no written lease for the land
Someone else is doing something else on their own land
You want compensation because it is an inconvenience to you
Seriously, s
t happens. deal with it and move on - it's not worth the stress and raised blood pressure.
You make it sum up everything that is wrong with this country.
Going through the facts.
You rent land
You have a verbal agreement
You have no written lease for the land
Someone else is doing something else on their own land
You want compensation because it is an inconvenience to you
Seriously, s
t happens. deal with it and move on - it's not worth the stress and raised blood pressure. ColinM50 said:
What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
About as much compensation as you'll give me for wasting my broadband bandwidth. Compo compo compo.
If you don't want to fly your planes there go somewhere else. The land is not yours.
ColinM50 said:
What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area
You, sir, are having a laugh.If you think a bunch of people in the middle distance that happen to use some ground intermittently during the week for recreational purposes will put off a developer you're sorely mistaken. Garnished with the fact that you have no legal paperwork to back up your claim for current usage of the land.
What measurable are you hoping to base your claim for compensation on? You could always learn to fly the planes away from the turbines.
Dr Rick
Herbs said:
I can understand it being annoying but have you sat back and reread that from an outsiders point of view?
You make it sum up everything that is wrong with this country.
Going through the facts.
You rent land
You have a verbal agreement
You have no written lease for the land
Someone else is doing something else on their own land
You want compensation because it is an inconvenience to you
Seriously, st happens. deal with it and move on - it's not worth the stress and raised blood pressure.
As this ^^^^ You make it sum up everything that is wrong with this country.
Going through the facts.
You rent land
You have a verbal agreement
You have no written lease for the land
Someone else is doing something else on their own land
You want compensation because it is an inconvenience to you
Seriously, s
t happens. deal with it and move on - it's not worth the stress and raised blood pressure. 
ColinM50 said:
I'm a member of a model aircraft flying club and we rent a piece of a farmers field. It's on an old WW2 airfield and our flying patch is at the junction of two old concrete taxiways though we fly off grass that we laid and we mow and look after it regularly. The site's right out in the countryside, some considerable way from the nearest houses and we don't cause anybody any problems. We're affiliated with the BMFA and do everything correctly and legally.
You don't generally find model flying clubs in the middle of town 
ColinM50 said:
Being in such a remote area there's a planning application in to put windmills around the farm and two of them would be in such a position as to stop our activities. We couldn't really fly our "toys" and risk damaging either them or the windmills, they'll be just too close..
So you are already aware that you would be breaking the ANO if these "windmills" get the go ahead?Surely you as a club, or an individual, would be entitled to raise an objection to the application?
ColinM50 said:
We've been here about 15 years and whilst we don't have a written lease as such, it's all verbal, we do pay rent by cheque each year. So anyone any idea where we stand? What level of compensation can we expect if the power company ask us to just s*d off and leave the area..
As others have posted, what makes you think you are entitled to compensation?As you have been there for as long as you state, it does give you or the club valid reasons to object to the application, knowing how nimby people seem to be about wind turbines there may be others in the area that are already objecting. It wouldn't hurt for your club to also object.
As you are affiliated to the BMFA then why don't you ask their advice?
The obvious answer, though I am fully aware of how difficult this can be, would be to start looking for another site if the application gets the go-ahead.
I used to fly, and instruct at club level, and have had dealings with the BMFA directly. We asked them to come out and view our flying site, which was within the circuit pattern of an active airfield, they are very helpful, but sometimes you have to help them to help you (If you see what I mean)
I hope you are worrying about nothing, but I can't see how you feel compensation is payable.
I reckon a fair price would be a £100m initial lump sum plus £700K to £1m per month in perpetuity or until the laws of physic change, whichever is sooner.
This is after all serious stuff.
You've been paying a nominal annual sum to a landowner in order to make yourself and others like you happy and that has now come under threat by the potential placement of some windmills.
The good news is there is a test case, 'MillerCo PLC Vs The Pounding Grain With a Rock in the Midday Sun Breadmakers Co-operative (1213 AD)' in which an entire section of the then exploding bread economy was wiped out by these hideous wind powered monstrosities. The then Lord Justice Albert Merriwhether-Pigfondler found that MillerCo through unfair competition and harnessing nature's power were guilty of unfair competition as they had not taken into consideration the competitive restrictions they placed on people pounding a bit more of their own grain than they needed in order to make them happy by way of trade for chickens, groats and magic beans.
Best of luck with it, not that you need it, I don't see how you can lose to be honest.
This is after all serious stuff.
You've been paying a nominal annual sum to a landowner in order to make yourself and others like you happy and that has now come under threat by the potential placement of some windmills.
The good news is there is a test case, 'MillerCo PLC Vs The Pounding Grain With a Rock in the Midday Sun Breadmakers Co-operative (1213 AD)' in which an entire section of the then exploding bread economy was wiped out by these hideous wind powered monstrosities. The then Lord Justice Albert Merriwhether-Pigfondler found that MillerCo through unfair competition and harnessing nature's power were guilty of unfair competition as they had not taken into consideration the competitive restrictions they placed on people pounding a bit more of their own grain than they needed in order to make them happy by way of trade for chickens, groats and magic beans.
Best of luck with it, not that you need it, I don't see how you can lose to be honest.
Plotloss said:
I reckon a fair price would be a £100m initial lump sum plus £700K to £1m per month in perpetuity or until the laws of physic change, whichever is sooner.
This is after all serious stuff.
You've been paying a nominal annual sum to a landowner in order to make yourself and others like you happy and that has now come under threat by the potential placement of some windmills.
The good news is there is a test case, 'MillerCo PLC Vs The Pounding Grain With a Rock in the Midday Sun Breadmakers Co-operative (1213 AD)' in which an entire section of the then exploding bread economy was wiped out by these hideous wind powered monstrosities. The then Lord Justice Albert Merriwhether-Pigfondler found that MillerCo through unfair competition and harnessing nature's power were guilty of unfair competition as they had not taken into consideration the competitive restrictions they placed on people pounding a bit more of their own grain than they needed in order to make them happy by way of trade for chickens, groats and magic beans.
Best of luck with it, not that you need it, I don't see how you can lose to be honest.
This is after all serious stuff.
You've been paying a nominal annual sum to a landowner in order to make yourself and others like you happy and that has now come under threat by the potential placement of some windmills.
The good news is there is a test case, 'MillerCo PLC Vs The Pounding Grain With a Rock in the Midday Sun Breadmakers Co-operative (1213 AD)' in which an entire section of the then exploding bread economy was wiped out by these hideous wind powered monstrosities. The then Lord Justice Albert Merriwhether-Pigfondler found that MillerCo through unfair competition and harnessing nature's power were guilty of unfair competition as they had not taken into consideration the competitive restrictions they placed on people pounding a bit more of their own grain than they needed in order to make them happy by way of trade for chickens, groats and magic beans.
Best of luck with it, not that you need it, I don't see how you can lose to be honest.
That same MillerCo later got sued for the hitting and abusing of a certain Alonso Quixano (google him if you don't know him).
They have a bad habit for the disrupting of peace, a compensation for the injust done to you would be easily attained.
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