What's bad about coasting?
What's bad about coasting?
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DannyVTS

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

190 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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I have googled and been given odd answers.. so then PH, why shouldn't i coast in my car? The subject was risen midway through a thread last week and no obvious answer was given..

regards

Danny

soad

34,294 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Wears out clutch = costly repair with time, shortens it's life too.

No engine breaking.

V8mate

45,899 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Didn't your driving instructor tell you?

Rawwr

22,722 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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soad said:
No engine breaking.
Ooh! If I coast the engine will never break? Sounds awesome!

hehe

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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soad said:
Wears out clutch = costly repair with time, shortens it's life too.

No engine breaking.
How can coasting wear the clutch?

As it's disengaged.

The release bearing is being stressed yes but the clutch itself won't be.

DannyVTS

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

190 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Plotloss said:
soad said:
Wears out clutch = costly repair with time, shortens it's life too.

No engine breaking.
How can coasting wear the clutch?

As it's disengaged.

The release bearing is being stressed yes but the clutch itself won't be.
That was my theory, surely less wear is being transferred ?

soad

34,294 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Oops, caffeine overload moment wink

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Rawwr said:
soad said:
No engine breaking.
Ooh! If I coast the engine will never break? Sounds awesome!

hehe
Ace. I shall commence coasting at once.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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The friction plate may be disengaged but it'll still be having some contact with the flywheel/pressure plate so it will wear unlike when it's clamped solid when in drive.

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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You haven't as much control over the speed of your vehicle due to the loss of engine braking and the fact you can't just accelerate. Also you would be wearing the spring that releases your clutch unless you were in neutral.

Oh and you use less fuel by being in gear on the overrun than you do coasting in neutral or with the clutch depressed.

hombrepaulo

1,380 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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It kills eagles

davepoth

29,395 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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If you do it the IAM will come and kill you in your sleep wink. In a modern car, engine-on coasting wastes fuel compared to on the overrun (there is a fuel cutoff), and you are effectively wasting some free braking energy from the air pumped by the engine on the overrun.

Marlin45

1,334 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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...and cuddly wuddly wabbits!

s2ooz

3,005 posts

306 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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I coast A LOT, I tend to slip into nuetral as well.

in control? hardly, the brakes are fab in or out of gear. and the accelleration so pathetic it wouldnt safe me enough in the reaction time anyway.

engine breaking? ok I get some, but I coast because I DONT want to slow down that much, just enough. eg long run down a gentle slope, that I eventually turn right at the bottom -

1) in gear, have to keep topping up the speed with the throttle, then ease of near the junction to drop the speed.
2) coast all the way, engine at idle, speed maintained all the way.

I reckon the coasting is more economical.


excessive clutch wear? after 140,000 miles. I havent fitted a new clutch yet. yet MIL, who had the same car with less mileage needed a clutch, I assume due to the style of slipping out the clutch on down shifts without blipping the throttle to match the revs, and sitting in traffic with the clutch in, or balance the car on a hill using the clutch..

go coasting....

durbster

11,751 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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I think coasting is one of those curious points in that when it's raised on the internet, most people struggle to accept anything other than a black and white response e.g. coasting is not a perfect driving technique, therefore it must be incredibly dangerous.

The same thing happens in threads about driving bare-foot too. smile

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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durbster said:
I think coasting is one of those curious points in that when it's raised on the internet, most people struggle to accept anything other than a black and white response e.g. coasting is not a perfect driving technique, therefore it must be incredibly dangerous.

The same thing happens in threads about driving bare-foot too. smile
You're not allowed to be reasonable on the internet. Get out.

vit4

3,507 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Ok, a question about coasting that nobody seems to answer hehe

On a fuel injected car, you use less/no fuel when you leave it in gear, foot off accelerator.

Is this the same on a carb'd car or does it use less when coasting??

thewildblue

351 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Doesnt the weight of the flywheel make a difference as whether to lift off and coast in gear or coast in neutral.

Heavy flywheel = coasting in gear for longer...lighter flywheel the engine slows down quicker.

edo

16,699 posts

287 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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1. No control (or slower control) in that you cant quickly accelerate.
2. No engine braking.
3. It is pointless as it uses more fuel than taking your foot of the gas in gear (you are using the same as silting stationary idling, versus modern engines with throttle closed using next to no fuel).

Qube

437 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Plotloss said:
The release bearing is being stressed yes but the clutch itself won't be.
As soon as you disengage to neutral the thrust bearing retracts in to the arm of the gearbox thus having no stress on the bearing at all. The thrust bearing would only be in stress in neutral if the driver had there foot slighty on the clutch which pushed the bearing to meet the clutch plate or alternatively a manually adjusted clutch cable was adjusted too tight not allowing the thrust bearing to fully retract from the clutch plate.

Both examples would prematurely wear a clutch out.