Tracking on 280i

Tracking on 280i

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bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Anyone know the correct tracking setup for a 280i?

I've just started running 225-50-15's if that makes any difference.

Also, what pressures would you reccomend for the above tyres?

Cheers.

Bob.

shpub

8,507 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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I haven't got the figures to hand but the tyre size is a bit too wide for the rim and will suffer from tread roll over where the sidewall starts to lift the tyre up off the road. The normal practice is to increase the tyre pressure but this balloons the tyre and makes the problem worse. So you get into a catch 22 situation where you need to run a higher pressure to stabilise the tyre sidewall but this reduces the contact patch and grip.

In extreme cases, the tyre can roll under the rim and the sidewall makes contact with the road. Didn't believe it until I saw I had worn the sidewall lettering. I would start at around 24 lb and start experimenting.

Steve

Bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

267 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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The tyres are on 390SE wheels which are wider than the standard 280i ones and allow for a lower profile tyre.

Although the tyres and rims are wider, the overall diameter is exactly the same as standard spec.

I believe the tyres are the correct size for the wheels.

Does this sound OK to you Steve?

shpub

8,507 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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Not really as it was on my 390SE in standard trim that I and others hit the problem. TVR specified the 225/50 tyre as an after thought and didn't increase the wheel size as a result. It is OK on a 8J or a 7.5 but most of the 390SE were a 7J where the original spec tyres of a 215 or 205 were fine but the 225 pushed it over the limit. So it all depends on the wheel width.

It is fine for poodling about but when pushed really does start causing some very interesting handling. Like driving on a blob of silicone rubber interesting.

For the later nutter cars, TVR started to fit wider wheels to complement the tyre size better.

Steve

gf350

805 posts

266 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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My 350 with std wheels has 205 60 15 tyres on at the moment, Can I therefore put on 215 50 15 's on it and recalibrate the speedo? It doesn't have a lot of ground clearence as it is, is this a problem?

bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

267 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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Any chance of those tracking figures anybody?

Wedg1e

26,804 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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Doh.. do I have to do everything....;-)

FRONT
Toe-in: 3.2mm +/-1.5mm
Camber: 0 Deg. +/-0.5 Deg.
Castor: 3.5 +/-0.5 Deg
Kingpin Angle: 6 Deg.

REAR
Toe-in: 4.5 +/-1.5mm
Camber: 0.5Deg. +/-0.5 Deg

Any use?

W.

bobfrance

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1,323 posts

267 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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Cheers Ian!

Hopefully these figures work on a 280 as well as a 390.

Do you have any problems with your tyres? (see above)

I have noticed the big ones on the front seem to be causing a bit of tramlining. (I'm currently at 26 PSI).

I may switch to something thinner.

Bob.

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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I just drive left or right of the rucks in the road, gets rid of a lot of the tram lining though not all of it.

shpub

8,507 posts

272 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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My 350 with std wheels has 205 60 15 tyres on at the moment, Can I therefore put on 215 50 15 's on it and recalibrate the speedo? It doesn't have a lot of ground clearence as it is, is this a problem?



There is a tyre size/speedo calculator spread sheet on my web site that will calculate the differences in circumference, diameter and speedo readings. Probbaly not worth recalibrating as the speedo is not that accurate anyway and I think the difference is only a few % anyway.

Steve

Wedg1e

26,804 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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My 390 does suffer from a bit of tramlining, as did the Tasmin, but since steering that was akin to directing a supertanker with a canoe paddle over the side, it wasn't much of a problem!
Can't say I drive in a gung-ho-enough fashion to have the wheels rolling over the sidewalls; usually I find the arse end (mine as well as the car's!) has let go long before the front gives me trouble.
At a quick guesstimate, I'd have said that the difference in ground clearance between the two tyre sizes mentioned would be negigible!

W.

arcturus

1,489 posts

263 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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'Scuse my ignorance, but are these figures good for a standard 350i as well?

Thanks

Dave Clarke

Wedg1e

26,804 posts

265 months

Friday 31st May 2002
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The figures I quoted were from the 350 manual.

W.

arcturus

1,489 posts

263 months

Friday 31st May 2002
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Thanks. I guess i'll be off down to the tracking shop then - I have 1mm toe out on the front at the moment.

Dave Clarke