How can I check a cars true mileage ??
How can I check a cars true mileage ??
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RetroTed

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1,029 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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I have seen a car that i'm interested in buying and im not 100% convinced the mileage is genuine. How can I check?

Is there a way of searching the dvla for mot's etc

Cheers

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECHID-In...

Possibly an HPI check would do the same but I am sure someone will correct me.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Yes, but you need the MOT test number from the current cert. Just checked mine and it went back to 2006, including plate changes. Also advises if pass or fail and what any advisories were.

motinfo.gov.uk

Dracoro

8,965 posts

267 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Proper hpi has national mileage register (NMR) data included.

GIGO of course but possibly an indicator.

That said, if your instincts tell you it's clocked then play safe and walk away, other cars to see etc...

Edited by Dracoro on Thursday 18th November 20:40

Hugo a Gogo

23,422 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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not too helpful, but I read about a guy in AutoBild recently, he has a computer listen to the engine, with a sort of stethoscope thing, it compares the sound to a database of loads of other cars the same, and tells you how worn out it is

RetroTed

Original Poster:

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231 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
not too helpful, but I read about a guy in AutoBild recently, he has a computer listen to the engine, with a sort of stethoscope thing, it compares the sound to a database of loads of other cars the same, and tells you how worn out it is
laugh

Thorburn

2,422 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Cut it in half and count the rings.

One ring = 12.93 miles.

redtwin

7,518 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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The *only* way to know for sure is to buy from new, and even then a few years ago a certain manufacturer's employees were caught taking new cars straight from the factory using them for long trips then returning them to the factory to get a new speedo fitted.

Old MOTs only record the mileage as showing on the odometer, an unscrupulous owner could have disconnected the speedo to reduce the amount of recorded miles. Same applies to service stamps and HPIs etc.

Buy on condition.

entwisi

728 posts

213 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Thorburn said:
Cut it in half and count the rings.

One ring = 12.93 miles.
you owe me a new shirt seeing as I just splurted whiskey and coke all over this one....

Very very good! biggrin

sebhaque

6,534 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Condition is always the benchmark I use. Look at things like the seats, the condition of the wheels, the engine etc. A heavy mileage car will have worn seats, dark alloys (where brake dust/dirt has built up over the miles) and the engine *can* feel slightly looser. I reckon my old MG was clocked, it was 4 years old when I bought it and had done 16,000 miles. Shortly after I bought it the gearbox went pop - while it's possibly just a case of "lol MG", both the recovery man and the fella in the repair shop commented that it's uncommon for a gearbox to explode so early, and the car may have seen more miles than it had on it. Certainly, the individual I bought it from wasn't the sort of man you could trust with your house keys while on holiday.

POORCARDEALER

8,632 posts

263 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
not too helpful, but I read about a guy in AutoBild recently, he has a computer listen to the engine, with a sort of stethoscope thing, it compares the sound to a database of loads of other cars the same, and tells you how worn out it is
April 1st edition?

Dracoro

8,965 posts

267 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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redtwin said:
The *only* way to know for sure is to buy from new, and even then a few years ago a certain manufacturer's employees were caught taking new cars straight from the factory using them for long trips then returning them to the factory to get a new speedo fitted.

Old MOTs only record the mileage as showing on the odometer, an unscrupulous owner could have disconnected the speedo to reduce the amount of recorded miles. Same applies to service stamps and HPIs etc.

Buy on condition.
In the past this was somewhat easier as cars really did show their age, nowadays they hide it well (hence being ripe for clocking!).

I had an Audi A6 that had done 60k, inside the car looked new (the outside only looked like it had done half the mileage). The Omega I have now has done 67k and although tidy (certainly doesn't look anything like 10 years old), still shows some small signs of wear that the Audi wouldn't entertain at all.

I would pay more attention to checking German car (the more upmarket ones anyway) over as the design/engineering of the visible stuff is very good and can hide the age very well. A 200k bmw 7series can easily pass for a 100k one, however a 200k Vauxhall/Ford/Frenchie will struggle to hide the miles.

You simply have to check as much as you can INCLUDING getting a proper HPI with NMR data, old MOTs etc. The combination of all these things should help you make as best an informed decision as possible.

Don't skip the HPI because it "looks" mint, innit. And don't skip checking the car over as the HPI says it's clear.

Edited by Dracoro on Thursday 18th November 22:26