Conscientious Class 1 Driver seeking ADR Tanker position

[Dico]

Hi

I am a 41 year old Class 1 driver with an excellent driving record. I was made redundant from my current position two days ago and have been placed on gardening leave until the end of December. The reason for redundancy is the company are outsourcing it's distribution operation. I have worked for my current employer for seven years, and previous employer for four years. I am based in Manchester.

In brief, my CV is as follows:

• 11 years of both Class 1 and Class 2 driving experience (Class 1 held since 1999)
• During this time I have had NO accidents or motoring convictions
• Holder of a digital tachograph card
• UK-wide experience
• Excellent references available from both previous employers
• Non-smoker

I have always had an interest in driving tankers and am keen to investigate this field further. With this in mind I would be willing to pay for any relevant training required prior to engagement.

I can be contacted by e-mail : [e-mail]

Thanks for looking!

Paul

[Mr AJ]

Hello mate, can't help with the hiring but theres a few decent agencies in manchester who are always looking for Class 1/Class 2 drivers - Its only temporary work but its money while you find something else! I think one of them is based on Cheetham hill road, Theres another Oldham way.

Good luck mate, I was made redundant a few months back now and the jobs market is crap at the moment if you do anything other than Call centre work!.

[Stupeo]

Dico said:

Hi

I am a 41 year old Class 1 driver with an excellent driving record. I was made redundant from my current position two days ago and have been placed on gardening leave until the end of December. The reason for redundancy is the company are outsourcing it's distribution operation. I have worked for my current employer for seven years, and previous employer for four years. I am based in Manchester.

In brief, my CV is as follows:

• 11 years of both Class 1 and Class 2 driving experience (Class 1 held since 1999)
• During this time I have had NO accidents or motoring convictions
• Holder of a digital tachograph card
• UK-wide experience
• Excellent references available from both previous employers
• Non-smoker

I have always had an interest in driving tankers and am keen to investigate this field further. With this in mind I would be willing to pay for any relevant training required prior to engagement.

I can be contacted by e-mail : [e-mail]

Thanks for looking!

Paul

My old man has had quite a bit of work through the agency "Deployment". They have an office in Rochdale and around manchester. They are usually mad busy this time of year.

[edc]

Given that you use the term 'outsource' you might be covered by TUPE regulations, in which case your employment transfers to the new service provider. I would make some enquiries with your manager.

[Dico]

Thanks all

TUPE was offered to us, however it was a completely unrealistic offer. Approximately £5000 a year less, up to 15 drops a day, whereas I currently do/did 9 per week. And to top it all, there was NO guarantee of a job if we transferred!!! Unbelievable.

On a plus note we were offered (and took) an enhanced redundancy package.

[worsy]

Dico said:

Thanks all

TUPE was offered to us, however it was a completely unrealistic offer. Approximately £5000 a year less, up to 15 drops a day, whereas I currently do/did 9 per week. And to top it all, there was NO guarantee of a job if we transferred!!! Unbelievable.

On a plus note we were offered (and took) an enhanced redundancy package.

TUPE has to be to the same pay and conditions.

[edc]

worsy said:

Dico said:

Thanks all

TUPE was offered to us, however it was a completely unrealistic offer. Approximately £5000 a year less, up to 15 drops a day, whereas I currently do/did 9 per week. And to top it all, there was NO guarantee of a job if we transferred!!! Unbelievable.

On a plus note we were offered (and took) an enhanced redundancy package.

TUPE has to be to the same pay and conditions.

Same terms and conditions. If you were paid the same basic and the same rate per drop then fine. Although in many cases things like commission or bonus schemes are non contractual. There is also probably nothing in the contract that guarantees the number of jobs. This is quite typical where service work is contracted out. The contractors and providers work in a totally different way to the way in which the in house operation was run.

[Dico]

Hmm. No bonus/overtime etc involved in my current redundant position. I earn/earnt a set salary.
They did say they couldn't guarantee all of us a position, so we assumed that meant potentialy that meant none of us were guaranteed a job, so we all accepted the 'enhanced' redundancy offer.
So, I was on a set salary yet they offered us an hourly rate. They offered us less holidays per year. Also, I specificaly asked if my BUPA cover would still continue (which is very important to me at the moment as I am having major surgery in the next few days) and they replied "No".
I writing this down very quickly so it may not come across too well. I feel I/we may have been misled here.
On one slip of paper they gave us it did actualy say "Transfer on existing terms and conditions". I queried this (stupidly didn't have said piece of paper with me) and the HR managers reply was that this wasn't the case.
They are a very large buisness so I wouldn't have thought they could or would try and pull the wool over our eyes.
All three of us have verbaly accepted redundancy, however we have to see a solicitor to confirm this. Maybe I should see an employment law solicitor?
Is the info you both give 100% up to date and accurate?
Thanks VERY much. Sorry for rambling on.

Dico

[Dico]

We were also told that if we did accept the new position and were subsequently made redundant we would just receive statutary redundancy and would lose the 'enhanced offer'.
So, they have to at least offer one of us a genuine position, on our current salary? Yet even that one position could be made redundant within a month say?

I've moved this to a new thread - thanks guys for your input!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Dico

Edited by Dico on Saturday 20th November 11:44