Poll: Jag XJ
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Feckit I still want a Jag
Have looked at sevens although only driven a 728 which left me a little cold tbh.The Lexus although lovely is just too dare I say it japanese.
Have driven an XJ8 3.2 with Cats suspension and 17" alloys and it was wonderfully smooth and quiet.Drove a series 3 XJ6 many years ago so dont remember if the XJ6 is as smooth and refined as the 8 ?
So would you choose the 6 or the 8 and if you have a min and you have or do own an XJ6 how refined are they ?
Have looked at sevens although only driven a 728 which left me a little cold tbh.The Lexus although lovely is just too dare I say it japanese.
Have driven an XJ8 3.2 with Cats suspension and 17" alloys and it was wonderfully smooth and quiet.Drove a series 3 XJ6 many years ago so dont remember if the XJ6 is as smooth and refined as the 8 ?
So would you choose the 6 or the 8 and if you have a min and you have or do own an XJ6 how refined are they ?
All other things - condition, history and mileage being roughly equal?
Then it'd be the V8 everytime. Drive good examples of both and you'll very quickly see my point. But having said that then if it's a choice between a shabby V8 or a pristine 6 on a tight budget then I'd buy the 6 cyl car.
I've had 3.2 versions of both for several years - there's nothing wrong with the 6 cyl car but it's no comparison with the V8 in terms of refinement or performance
Then it'd be the V8 everytime. Drive good examples of both and you'll very quickly see my point. But having said that then if it's a choice between a shabby V8 or a pristine 6 on a tight budget then I'd buy the 6 cyl car.
I've had 3.2 versions of both for several years - there's nothing wrong with the 6 cyl car but it's no comparison with the V8 in terms of refinement or performance
The thing is I fancy spunkin sub 3k on a V8 and I have seen some beauties.I have also seen some stunning XJ6 for 1.5k to 2k.
At this kind of money I wouldnt be worried about the potential for a big bill.
By the way should a jag have cruise as surprisingly a lot of both the 8`s & 6`s dont have it.
At this kind of money I wouldnt be worried about the potential for a big bill.
By the way should a jag have cruise as surprisingly a lot of both the 8`s & 6`s dont have it.
macp said:
The thing is I fancy spunkin sub 3k on a V8 and I have seen some beauties.I have also seen some stunning XJ6 for 1.5k to 2k.
At this kind of money I wouldnt be worried about the potential for a big bill.
By the way should a jag have cruise as surprisingly a lot of both the 8`s & 6`s dont have it.
At that money? Best XJ6 you can find then - maybe a modest mileage last of the run 1997 Executive model.At this kind of money I wouldnt be worried about the potential for a big bill.
By the way should a jag have cruise as surprisingly a lot of both the 8`s & 6`s dont have it.
No it won't have cruise as standard - but it'll be pretty bombproof providing it's been well cared for.
Change all the fluids, saturate it in Waxoil, fit some later 16" alloys and a non dating plate if you must and nobody'll even guess you're driving a sub £3k car
firman said:
I voted 300 as I myself picked one up last week. £1000 got me a 96 3.2 with 130000 on the clock 11 months mot, 6 months tax, Huge history file and cruise control! So much car for the money
As an X300 owner whats your opinion on the following comment below regarding the X300.X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
macp said:
As an X300 owner whats your opinion on the following comment below regarding the X300.
X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
As an ex-X300 owner i'd agree with that. If you can find a late-model X300 XJ6 Sport with the 4.0 and cruise control, you'll have a great car. That said, three grand will get you easily into X308's, and a 3.2 V8 (provided the tensioner has been changed for the Mk.3 version) should be just as reliable as the six. The X308 also has (in my opinion) a nicer interior - the X300 interior was carried almost straight over from the late XJ40s, though in all fairness an X300 Sport interior, with the dark wood and cream leather still feels a very special place to be.X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
macp said:
firman said:
I voted 300 as I myself picked one up last week. £1000 got me a 96 3.2 with 130000 on the clock 11 months mot, 6 months tax, Huge history file and cruise control! So much car for the money
As an X300 owner whats your opinion on the following comment below regarding the X300.X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
GTO Scott said:
macp said:
As an X300 owner whats your opinion on the following comment below regarding the X300.
X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
As an ex-X300 owner i'd agree with that. If you can find a late-model X300 XJ6 Sport with the 4.0 and cruise control, you'll have a great car. That said, three grand will get you easily into X308's, and a 3.2 V8 (provided the tensioner has been changed for the Mk.3 version) should be just as reliable as the six. The X308 also has (in my opinion) a nicer interior - the X300 interior was carried almost straight over from the late XJ40s, though in all fairness an X300 Sport interior, with the dark wood and cream leather still feels a very special place to be.X300:
Good build quality inside and out. Mechanically bombproof and capable of massive mileage if cared for. Rather sluggish heavily laden. Noisy when driven hard. Crude jerky autobox in 3.2, 4.0 is better. Manuals are agricultural but quicker. Rust round rear arches, sills and floorpan. Suspension component wear. Timing chain tensioner can become noisy. Bumper mounts corrode. Usual old car wear and tear. Ride quality biased more towards comfort than handling.
A guy I know recently bought an XJ8 3.2 with 66,000mls for £2800 and has covered so far 8,000 trouble free miles.
Sorry, I can't agree that a 3.2 is sluggish. 3.2s are happier to rev so let them. Torque wise they have loads more low down than the contemporary 735BMW V8, very evenly matched with the 740BMW, I had friends with both, and through out the range the Jag was just a fraction quicker than 740.
Rust could be an indication of damage.
The gearbox is the least impressive part of the car, but shouldn't be bad. The MB box used in the V8 XJRs is much better which is the other auto box I drive a lot, but the Jag's fully mechanical box is still quite usable and should be smooth most of the time.
Rust could be an indication of damage.
The gearbox is the least impressive part of the car, but shouldn't be bad. The MB box used in the V8 XJRs is much better which is the other auto box I drive a lot, but the Jag's fully mechanical box is still quite usable and should be smooth most of the time.
Sorry, I can't agree that a 3.2 is sluggish. 3.2s are happier to rev so let them. Torque wise they have loads more low down than the contemporary 735BMW V8, very evenly matched with the 740BMW, I had friends with both, and through out the range the Jag was just a fraction quicker than 740.
Sluggish? That's a comment I made in another tread which maybe needs a little clarifcation in case it's putting anybody off trying a 6 cyl car.
I covered about 30k in mine and found the 3.2 X300s performance was adequate in most situations - it'll keep up with traffic and cruises well enough. Where it falls down badly IMO is when you're heavily laden, in hilly areas or driving fast. Under those circumstances and especially when overtaking threre's no comparison with the V8. Not only that but when you do get a move on the 6 will use significantly more fuel then the V8 in similar conditions.
Hardly surprising 'tho the V8 is quicker as it has more power, wider torque spread, a much better gearbox with more ratios and electronic intigration with the engine which means it's always in the right gear and it weighs some 200kg less too.
No criticism of the 6 cyl then, but that's the real world difference between the two. Performance may or may not not matter too much of course, depending on what your needs and expectations are. If you want a comfortable, laid back cruiser then the 3.2 6 cyl car is fine, if you want more than that you need a 4.0 six - which'll have a much nicer gearbox too - or choose a good V8.
Sluggish? That's a comment I made in another tread which maybe needs a little clarifcation in case it's putting anybody off trying a 6 cyl car.
I covered about 30k in mine and found the 3.2 X300s performance was adequate in most situations - it'll keep up with traffic and cruises well enough. Where it falls down badly IMO is when you're heavily laden, in hilly areas or driving fast. Under those circumstances and especially when overtaking threre's no comparison with the V8. Not only that but when you do get a move on the 6 will use significantly more fuel then the V8 in similar conditions.
Hardly surprising 'tho the V8 is quicker as it has more power, wider torque spread, a much better gearbox with more ratios and electronic intigration with the engine which means it's always in the right gear and it weighs some 200kg less too.
No criticism of the 6 cyl then, but that's the real world difference between the two. Performance may or may not not matter too much of course, depending on what your needs and expectations are. If you want a comfortable, laid back cruiser then the 3.2 6 cyl car is fine, if you want more than that you need a 4.0 six - which'll have a much nicer gearbox too - or choose a good V8.
macp said:
I think my mind is made up I will just try to find the best V8 I can for the money I have.
Have a mooch around this site http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/index.php loads of advice and buying guides on therefirman said:
macp said:
I think my mind is made up I will just try to find the best V8 I can for the money I have.
Have a mooch around this site http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/index.php loads of advice and buying guides on thereSo last question how important is having cruise control on a Jag.Is it worth hanging on for it or just buy the nicest car whether it has cruise or not ?
macp said:
firman said:
macp said:
I think my mind is made up I will just try to find the best V8 I can for the money I have.
Have a mooch around this site http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/index.php loads of advice and buying guides on thereSo last question how important is having cruise control on a Jag.Is it worth hanging on for it or just buy the nicest car whether it has cruise or not ?
firman said:
macp said:
firman said:
macp said:
I think my mind is made up I will just try to find the best V8 I can for the money I have.
Have a mooch around this site http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/index.php loads of advice and buying guides on thereSo last question how important is having cruise control on a Jag.Is it worth hanging on for it or just buy the nicest car whether it has cruise or not ?
Also mine is 3.2 and drives great, again dont pass a lovely 3.2 up in the search for an elusive 4 litre. Of course only you know what you think important.
macp said:
So what does the standard stereo sound like in the XJ6.I thought the standard fitment stereo in the XJ8 sounded fine.
I had an X308 XJR for a while, my friend has an X300 both with the standard stereo. We were both surprised to find the X300 actually sounded better. As far as I know there are 5 different ones available.X300 standard
X300 upgrade (Harmon Kardon?)
X308 early
X308 post-2000 standard (Alpine)
X308 upgrade (Harmon Kardon)
It seems the early, standard, X308 system is the
Edited by varsas on Sunday 21st November 19:07
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