Cheap car bought retail,major fault...dealer advice please
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What's up with the clutch?
Is it cable operated or hydraulic? Has the cable snapped/any fluid leaks?
If it's a friction problem, do some research and see if it's got a Dual Mass Flywheel. If it has, it's going to cost a fortune to sort and it may be best to auction the car and accept any hit.
Is it cable operated or hydraulic? Has the cable snapped/any fluid leaks?
If it's a friction problem, do some research and see if it's got a Dual Mass Flywheel. If it has, it's going to cost a fortune to sort and it may be best to auction the car and accept any hit.
quote soga 2003 at him, and just show that you're not going to give up without a fight.
give the opportunity to fix it, if he does nothing, say you will bring trading standards into it.
still nothing, then do this. he will get in trouble in the first place for doing this. but then will be in huuge trouble for lying about your statutory rights. he will know full well he has to sort it, so just don't take cr4p from him.
give the opportunity to fix it, if he does nothing, say you will bring trading standards into it.
still nothing, then do this. he will get in trouble in the first place for doing this. but then will be in huuge trouble for lying about your statutory rights. he will know full well he has to sort it, so just don't take cr4p from him.
It's always difficult with cheap cars-at the end of the day £800 wouldn't cover a pair of tyres on some cars.The dealer can't have more than a few hundred profit in the car so won't be jumping through hoops to fix any problems you have.That's the reality unfortunately and the reason that not many dealers sell cars at this level.
Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
MarsellusWallace said:
It's always difficult with cheap cars-at the end of the day £800 wouldn't cover a pair of tyres on some cars.The dealer can't have more than a few hundred profit in the car so won't be jumping through hoops to fix any problems you have.That's the reality unfortunately and the reason that not many dealers sell cars at this level.
Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
no, just no...Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
dealer will have known the clutch was going, and basically conned you.
read this thread...
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthr...
understand your rights, and get a fix or refund.
h0b0 said:
Is it possible the trader knew about the clutch before he sold the car? This may put you in a different situation
Yet a test drive would also have given the buyer as much info as the seller in this regard. I knows it's a bugger but I think the buyer doesn't have a lot to go on here. Ifthe clutch slipped or had too much pedal travel or felt wrong, then they should have walked away if they didn't wan the potential to fix it.Efbe said:
MarsellusWallace said:
It's always difficult with cheap cars-at the end of the day £800 wouldn't cover a pair of tyres on some cars.The dealer can't have more than a few hundred profit in the car so won't be jumping through hoops to fix any problems you have.That's the reality unfortunately and the reason that not many dealers sell cars at this level.
Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
no, just no...Just because he says he has cover from Lawgistics it doesn't necessarily means that he has and I would look to get him to contribute £150 or so toward the repair,book the car in somewhere locally and take it on the chin and move on.If he won't do this then call his bluff and tell him you are taking him to court.
dealer will have known the clutch was going, and basically conned you.
read this thread...
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthr...
understand your rights, and get a fix or refund.
Good luck with it all anyhow,
I have never had to take anyone to court, but threats of trading standards I have done, and if you work up to it slowly it has always worked for me.
Seems a very open and shut case to me, so ts should give you full support if you did decide to go down that route.
The only issue could be if he starts to say he is only a private seller.
I have never had to take anyone to court, but threats of trading standards I have done, and if you work up to it slowly it has always worked for me.
Seems a very open and shut case to me, so ts should give you full support if you did decide to go down that route.
The only issue could be if he starts to say he is only a private seller.
You said in your first post he'd offered £200.I suspect Trading Standards will do nothing. It is a civil matter between you and the trader - they are not going to take any action for you except give advice.
Clutch on a cheap car is a very, very grey area. Clutches wear out - not even a new car warranty covers them in many cases.
My gut feeling is the very best you'd get out of a court action is a load of stress, weeks of a non functioning car on your driveway and a £200 settelement would be a good result.
If you can get £200 contribution then my feeling is that it would be sensible to take it. I doubt the dealer drove the car more than 1/2 mile over 30mph. Few do.
Clutch on a cheap car is a very, very grey area. Clutches wear out - not even a new car warranty covers them in many cases.
My gut feeling is the very best you'd get out of a court action is a load of stress, weeks of a non functioning car on your driveway and a £200 settelement would be a good result.
If you can get £200 contribution then my feeling is that it would be sensible to take it. I doubt the dealer drove the car more than 1/2 mile over 30mph. Few do.
Efbe said:
Seems a very open and shut case to me, so ts should give you full support if you did decide to go down that route.
TS are not going to give free legal advice. TS are interested in dangerous or misdescribed cars. They can take action if a law has been broken. A car with a fault is a civil matter between buyer and seller and there is nothing they can actually do.It certainly isn't open and shut in my view - slightly dodgy clutch on a cheap old car is very grey.
Stu - B said:
After a few shirty texts on both sides he has agreed to pay £200. I think this is fair bearing in mind price of car etc, so alls well that ends well.
Thanks for everyones advice. Not sure what this proves, but at least a reasonable conclusion is reached.
Honestly, I think he has shafted you mate.Thanks for everyones advice. Not sure what this proves, but at least a reasonable conclusion is reached.
Efbe said:
Stu - B said:
After a few shirty texts on both sides he has agreed to pay £200. I think this is fair bearing in mind price of car etc, so alls well that ends well.
Thanks for everyones advice. Not sure what this proves, but at least a reasonable conclusion is reached.
Honestly, I think he has shafted you mate.Thanks for everyones advice. Not sure what this proves, but at least a reasonable conclusion is reached.
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