New Bathroom - How difficult?
New Bathroom - How difficult?
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justin220

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5,666 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Morning all, sorry if is has been asked before, but i couldn't find anything.

Me and the misses are wanting to put in a new bathroom, and I wondered how hard it was to do myself? Nothing fancy, just old one out, new one in, like for like.. New tiles and lights etc..

Tiling I'd probably get a neighbour in to do it..

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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To actually fit the bath basin and bog into position would be simple, but to isolate the cold and hot feeds, pipe it all up, fit the correct taps, couple the w/c pan and cistern (most are close coupled now) and the wastes and not flood your house may be tricky. Dont be lulled into a false sence of security with the thought of flexi connections either. You could do all the fitting and then get a decent plumber in to pipe it all up!

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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The plumbing was the hardest bit for me, but if you are careful and take your time and are good at DIY generally then you can do it. For me woodwork is easy, tiling is painstaking/boring but not actually difficult.

justin220

Original Poster:

5,666 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Thanks all. I never thought the plumbing would be too difficult if we're just swapping like for like? As most of the stuff would be there already?

One thing we do want is a proper power shower with a pump, which I'd imagine I'd need to get someone to install

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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justin220 said:
I never thought the plumbing would be too difficult if we're just swapping like for like? As most of the stuff would be there already?
You still have to connect the pipes sticking out of the floor to the backs of the taps etc, and you can be sure they're not exactly where the old taps were. So you;ll need to be able to turn off the hot and cold water and make joints.

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Simpo Two said:
justin220 said:
I never thought the plumbing would be too difficult if we're just swapping like for like? As most of the stuff would be there already?
So you;ll need to be able to turn off the hot and cold water and make joints.

How would preparing a spliff help you install a bathroom?

On a serious note, invest in some "ballofix" type isolation valves, at least if do have a leak, you can just isolate one part and not have to shut down the water to the whole house.

Have you ever applied silicone before? If not, have lots of toilet paper handy as it will go EVERYWHERE!

Good luck!

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Ricky_M said:
Simpo Two said:
justin220 said:
I never thought the plumbing would be too difficult if we're just swapping like for like? As most of the stuff would be there already?
So you;ll need to be able to turn off the hot and cold water and make joints.

How would preparing a spliff help you install a bathroom?

On a serious note, invest in a decent plumber, at least if do have a leak, you can just isolate one part and not have to shut down the water to the whole house.

Have you ever applied silicone before? If not, have lots of toilet paper handy as it will go EVERYWHERE!

Good luck!
EFA

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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I'm of much the same opinion when I see a post saying 'I'm going to get my brother to photograph my wedding because he's got a camera and it will be free'.

However, leaks can be fixed and a DIYer can take a few days over the task. Yes, you can hand over the cash and get a man in, but any useless housewife can do that. The satisfaction for the DIYer is the achievement balanced with the risk. And of course if the DIYer overreaches himself and it all goes the way of the pear, then he can still call a man in - and the man then has the bonus of a secret chuckle at the feeble attempts of the pathetic amateur. So everybody wins really smile

Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 21st November 19:39

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Even better, when the Home Owner is boasting about how he fitted it himself years ago..... So you're the tt that didn't put drain-offs anywhere on the system?


Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Yep, some people are big enough to handle that - all part of the risk/reward/satisfaction equation. Except my system has a drain-off, sorry to disappoint.

Mind you the last two times I asked a professional plumber to quote for work, he didn't bother to reply so what choice do we lackeys have?

It's very odd; I have a great empathy for amateur photographers, and if they get stuck I enjoy helping them out. But if you're an amateur plumber you're just a 'tt' it seems... perhaps we need two forums, one where DIYers can swap notes, and one where the pros can get their cocks out and wave them about?

Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 21st November 20:46

GarryA

4,700 posts

187 months

Spudler

3,985 posts

219 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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justin220 said:
One thing we do want is a proper power shower with a pump, which I'd imagine I'd need to get someone to install
Dont be tempted to do this yourself, you'll need a minor works ticket if/when you come to sell.

GarryA

4,700 posts

187 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Spudler said:
justin220 said:
One thing we do want is a proper power shower with a pump, which I'd imagine I'd need to get someone to install
Dont be tempted to do this yourself, you'll need a minor works ticket if/when you come to sell.
WHat if hes just replacing the pump that was put in a good few years ago wink

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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GarryA said:
The OP has fingers doesn't he!?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Simpo Two said:
perhaps we need two forums, one where DIYers can swap notes, and one where the pros can get their cocks out and wave them about?
Untwist your knickers and put your multi-meter back in your handbag wink

B17NNS

18,506 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Spudler said:
justin220 said:
One thing we do want is a proper power shower with a pump, which I'd imagine I'd need to get someone to install
Dont be tempted to do this yourself, you'll need a minor works ticket if/when you come to sell.
A shower pump usually comes with a 13a plug attached. Last I heard, plugging something in didn't require Part P.

Spudler

3,985 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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B17NNS said:
Spudler said:
justin220 said:
One thing we do want is a proper power shower with a pump, which I'd imagine I'd need to get someone to install
Dont be tempted to do this yourself, you'll need a minor works ticket if/when you come to sell.
A shower pump usually comes with a 13a plug attached. Last I heard, plugging something in didn't require Part P.
Still got to wire it to the SHOWER tho, which, last time i looked, didn't come with a plug clever tt rolleyes

james_tigerwoods

16,344 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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We're in process of finishing off our new bathroom (no real progress, so I've not updated my thread) - I toyed with the idea of doing the whole thing myself for about 30 seconds before I laughed to myself and got someone to replace the suite.

Given the grief and struggle of the fitter, I'm pleased I did just that as I know he had nothing but problems with it as there are so many unforeseen things that could occur.

On the plus side, I know it's plumbed in properly and there are isolation valves in the right places.

The rest (boxing, flooring, painting, etc) we're doing ourselves.

Well, that's what I would do anyway.

DPX

1,027 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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New tiles and lights

Make sure that the lights have the correct rating ( water ) get a sparky to install.
And also while playing with things check earth bonding get a sparky to check.