Grammar Police - Rejoice!!!!
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Frederick

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5,896 posts

250 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Apparently kids are going to be docked marks for poor spelling and grammar in their GCSE exams!! Link Here

Yes, only 5% but it is most definitely a start!!

Carrot

7,294 posts

232 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.

jagracer

8,248 posts

266 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.
Did you need the comma in that sentence?

Eric Mc

125,754 posts

295 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
Perhaps you could list those areas where correct useage of Engliah matters and those areas where it doesn't.

Carrot

7,294 posts

232 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
Perhaps you could list those areas where correct useage of Engliah matters and those areas where it doesn't.
No thanks.

Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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jagracer said:
mybrainhurts said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.
Did you need the comma in that sentence?
It gives the illiterates a chance to put down their OK magazines and leave the room. wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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jagracer said:
mybrainhurts said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.
Did you need the comma in that sentence?
I paused. Yes.

andywaterfall

990 posts

314 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Did you need two "want to"s though?

Derek Smith

49,927 posts

278 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
Perhaps you could list those areas where correct useage of Engliah matters and those areas where it doesn't.
Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used?

The purpose of language is communication. The purpose on punctuation is to make the intended meaning of the written word clear.

To make my meaning clear, my first sentence would be written just as correctly as:

'Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used.'

The difference is subtle and subtle is what the English language is so good at. Without punctuation it becomes a cacophony.

I write for money and I habitually use just three dictionaries but I have four books for help in usage and abusage.

Language is a tool. If you do not use punctuation correctly it is, in many ways, the same as cutting paper with a blunt pair of scissors.

It is unfortunate that learning and using correct punctuation can take time and effort. I cannot think of anything really worthwhile that does not.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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andywaterfall said:
Did you need two "want to"s though?
I have a stutter. Please don't mock don't mock the afflicted...hehe

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Derek Smith said:
Eric Mc said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
Perhaps you could list those areas where correct useage of Engliah matters and those areas where it doesn't.
Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used?

The purpose of language is communication. The purpose on punctuation is to make the intended meaning of the written word clear.

To make my meaning clear, my first sentence would be written just as correctly as:

'Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used.'

The difference is subtle and subtle is what the English language is so good at. Without punctuation it becomes a cacophony.

I write for money and I habitually use just three dictionaries but I have four books for help in usage and abusage.

Language is a tool. If you do not use punctuation correctly it is, in many ways, the same as cutting paper with a blunt pair of scissors.

It is unfortunate that learning and using correct punctuation can take time and effort. I cannot think of anything really worthwhile that does not.
I have an adjudication from 1767 hanging on my dining room wall, it's A0 in size, written in 200 year old legalese and contains not one piece of punctuation. You try reading that!

Diderot

9,677 posts

222 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Derek Smith said:
Eric Mc said:
Carrot said:
That is excellent. Hopefully, the spelling and grammar police from this forum will put their skills to use for a change - where it actually matters rather than on public forums.
Perhaps you could list those areas where correct useage of Engliah matters and those areas where it doesn't.
Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used?

The purpose of language is communication. The purpose on punctuation is to make the intended meaning of the written word clear.

To make my meaning clear, my first sentence would be written just as correctly as:

'Might I suggest that it matters where the printed or written word is used.'

The difference is subtle and subtle is what the English language is so good at. Without punctuation it becomes a cacophony.

I write for money and I habitually use just three dictionaries but I have four books for help in usage and abusage.

Language is a tool. If you do not use punctuation correctly it is, in many ways, the same as cutting paper with a blunt pair of scissors.

It is unfortunate that learning and using correct punctuation can take time and effort. I cannot think of anything really worthwhile that does not.
Purpose 'OF'

EliseNick

272 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Here's how ITN chose to report this story. Note the first sentence in particular.

Derek Smith

49,927 posts

278 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Diderot said:
Purpose 'OF'
Thank you for pointing that out. I assume you realise that it is a literal and not incorrect grammar.

Going back to my earlier post, I have no fetish with regards language. The English teacher in my final year at school used to rail against split infinitives. When at art college and producing an advert I mentioned the split infinitive in the headline and I was stunned by our German lecturer. He told me, in his heavily accented English, that it was no worse than a split nominative, which meant it was not wrong, the clever chap.


WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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jagracer said:
mybrainhurts said:
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.
Did you need the comma in that sentence?
I thought so, it providing an emphasis upon the second part.
Ok m8?

Derek Smith

49,927 posts

278 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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BliarOut said:
I have an adjudication from 1767 hanging on my dining room wall, it's A0 in size, written in 200 year old legalese and contains not one piece of punctuation. You try reading that!
You try reading statments written by probationary PCs.

A small point, but didn't A sizes of paper come in around the beginning of the 1960s?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Derek Smith said:
BliarOut said:
I have an adjudication from 1767 hanging on my dining room wall, it's A0 in size, written in 200 year old legalese and contains not one piece of punctuation. You try reading that!
You try reading statments written by probationary PCs.

A small point, but didn't A sizes of paper come in around the beginning of the 1960s?
I suspect it's in Imperial actually biggrin I merely used A0 as indicative sizing.

Oilchange

9,724 posts

290 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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-5 points for ITN...

"Marks will be docked for poor spelling, punctuation and grammer in GSCE exams, under new rules."

jagracer

8,248 posts

266 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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WhoseGeneration said:
jagracer said:
mybrainhurts said:
It matters everywhere, unless you want to want to be perceived as illiterate.
Did you need the comma in that sentence?
I thought so, it providing an emphasis upon the second part.
Ok m8?
My mistake as it was a serious question. Perhaps I should have written 'Do you need the comma in that sentence'.