LSD in t'snow

[pilchardthecat]

Am I going to more or less fked than last year now I have an LSD in the bmw?

[philmots]

I'd say better, both wheels will be spinning together rather than just one spinning away... Just as you'd have more drive in the wet.

[300bhp/ton]

pilchardthecat said:

Am I going to more or less fked than last year now I have an LSD in the bmw?

2wd instead of 1wd

[Bill]

More grip to get you going, but more snappy when things start to slide. Just like the wet, but more so.

[JonyPI]

I have LSD in my e36 325, and last year managed to navigate the snow fine, even making it off our steep snowy drive, makes it easier to control if it does slide aswell.

Still this doesn't mean you can brake any better, does me head in on the news at the moment, guy in a 4x4 with a trailor complains that he just lost all control when he hit black ice and over turned, he said to the camera, I was only doing 50mph! Why the hell were goin 50 in snowy and icy conditions WITH A TRAILOR TOO!

[firman]

JonyPI said:

WITH A TRAILOR TOO!

Trailer hth

[JonyPI]

firman said:

JonyPI said:

WITH A TRAILOR TOO!

Trailer hth

Cheers, doped up on painkillers after having a claw shoved my family jewels so don't expect my posts to make much sense.

[idge]

firman said:

JonyPI said:

WITH A TRAILOR TOO!

Trailer hth

LOL HTH

[The Wookie]

Bill said:

More grip to get you going, but more snappy when things start to slide. Just like the wet, but more so.

It could be worse, it could be like my 1er with a simulated slippy diff that uses the brakes to slow a spinning wheel. Rubbish traction and snappy once you're going

[PaulHogan]

I was going to comment on my student days in Newcastle...

[Kozy]

I have an LSD in my Civic, and I must say it was absolutely hopeless in the snow compared to other non LSD FWD cars.

My theory was that instead of one wheel spinning away, and one taking the little bit of grip it could get and moving the car forwards slowly, both wheels were now spinning and the car went nowhere.

[Wocka]

It'll be better. Stick some weight in the boot too.

[Don1]

JonyPI said:

Cheers, doped up on painkillers after having a claw shoved my family jewels so don't expect my posts to make much sense.

Is there no horror this funny man will not stoop to?

[mat205125]

Kozy said:

I have an LSD in my Civic, and I must say it was absolutely hopeless in the snow compared to other non LSD FWD cars.

My theory was that instead of one wheel spinning away, and one taking the little bit of grip it could get and moving the car forwards slowly, both wheels were now spinning and the car went nowhere.

Interesting observation. What kind of LSD are you using?

I cannot comment from any recent road car FWD LSD experience, however from my FWD rally days, a car was next to useless on the loose unless it was fitted with a proper plate type differential that had the ability to lock the axle. When we did have an "experience with the scenery", it was able to hawl itself back to the road remarkably well too.

.... nice Civic BTW. I really like that shape of Honda.

[GravelBen]

Kozy said:

I have an LSD in my Civic, and I must say it was absolutely hopeless in the snow compared to other non LSD FWD cars.

My theory was that instead of one wheel spinning away, and one taking the little bit of grip it could get and moving the car forwards slowly, both wheels were now spinning and the car went nowhere.

More likely it was just down to stiff suspension and your tyres - relatively wide, low profile sporty rubber?

[Kozy]

Thanks, it's pretty much EK9 spec, just with out the huge premium.

It's a helical LSD so never fully locks.

[shirt]

last winter I was driving a rwd BMW 528 with autobox and LSD. my commute was 20miles of b roads and country lanes. never had an issue unless i provoked one pretending I was a finnish rally ace. I dont understand this snow driving gayness.

[Kozy]

GravelBen said:

More likely it was just down to stiff suspension and your tyres - relatively wide, low profile sporty rubber?

My comparison was against my friends cars (namely Golfs) who run the same T1R tyres in the same 19550/15 profile and yet were completely untroubled by snow.

They had lower, stiffer (typical 'dub') suspension too.

[jatinder]

mat205125 said:

Kozy said:

I have an LSD in my Civic, and I must say it was absolutely hopeless in the snow compared to other non LSD FWD cars.

My theory was that instead of one wheel spinning away, and one taking the little bit of grip it could get and moving the car forwards slowly, both wheels were now spinning and the car went nowhere.

Interesting observation. What kind of LSD are you using?

I cannot comment from any recent road car FWD LSD experience, however from my FWD rally days, a car was next to useless on the loose unless it was fitted with a proper plate type differential that had the ability to lock the axle. When we did have an "experience with the scenery", it was able to hawl itself back to the road remarkably well too.

.... nice Civic BTW. I really like that shape of Honda.

Eh? I drove down to Bournemouth and Devon when it was snowing, with some roads looking like mountain passes... I never had one problem, maybe it's your tyres? I had Hankook RS2 on my Integra.

[GravelBen]

Kozy said:

GravelBen said:

More likely it was just down to stiff suspension and your tyres - relatively wide, low profile sporty rubber?

My comparison was against my friends cars (namely Golfs) who run the same T1R tyres in the same 19550/15 profile and yet were completely untroubled by snow.

They had lower, stiffer (typical 'dub') suspension too.

Thats interesting, you would generally expect the LSD to be much better.