How the hell do I undo this??

[Mr MXT]

Sorry for what i'm sure is a stupid question, but i need a quick answer. (As soon as I have an actual answer feel free to take the mick)



Two hoses going through the bulkhead to the heater matrix (by the dipstick). One has jubiliee clips, which is fine. How the hell do I undo the other one???

Yours stumped,

Mr MXT

[jjones]

squeeze those tabs together with pliers/mole grips

Edited by jjones on Saturday 27th November 13:30

[Mr MXT]

Is it one use only or can i use the same clip when it goes back together?

(Thanks!)

[Vidal Baboon]

I'll tell thee if you answer my thread in the MX forum

[Superhoop]

You can get pliers that are designed for compressing
that type if hose clip, but long nose pliers
will do the job just fine

[Vidal Baboon]

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

[welsh blackbird]

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

[Balmoral Green]

welsh blackbird said:

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

This man knows stuff.

[Vidal Baboon]

welsh blackbird said:

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

Why bother, these are much easier to use.

[nelly1]

See here...

Edited by nelly1 on Saturday 27th November 15:08

[AndrewW-G]

Handy tip:
If using mole grips and removing the clip from the hose, whilst it’s still compressed by the grips, put it in a plastic bag and then release the grips . . . . . . These clips have a lovely habit of going ping and vanishing at great speed into the deepest darkest recesses of the engine bay or garage!

[ShampooEfficient]

Vidal Baboon said:

welsh blackbird said:

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

Why bother, these are much easier to use.

Jubilees are much easier.

[Dogwatch]

AndrewW-G said:

Handy tip:
If using mole grips and removing the clip from the hose, whilst it’s still compressed by the grips, put it in a plastic bag and then release the grips . . . . . . These clips have a lovely habit of going ping and vanishing at great speed into the deepest darkest recesses of the engine bay or garage!

Probably the best place for them! Then you have an excuse to fit a Jubilee clip

[OlberJ]

Old compression clips are a nitemare for leaking slightly.

Jubilee Clip all the way. Just make sure it's a decent jubie.

[Vidal Baboon]

ShampooEfficient said:

Vidal Baboon said:

welsh blackbird said:

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

Why bother, these are much easier to use.

Jubilees are much easier.

Easier than what? Herpes?

If it's a crappy one- which most are, they round off at the mere sight of a screwdriver. Best to keep the lubed with coppa slip or similar- especially if they catch a load of road salt & grime.

They both have their merrits in certain circumstances. I've never had one of those clips leak either. I have seen broken jubilees from over tightening & corrosion.

[BonzoG]

I had to replace those very same hoses on my '5. The compression clips were an absolute sodding nightmare, because if they are oriented the wrong way then you need hands the size of a 5 year old with the strength of hulk hogan to be able to reach down and get the pliers or Vise-Grips to them. It's cramped enough in there, even after removing the coil packs! Jubilees are the way to go.

[Mr MXT]

All sorted now gents. Apparently, shouldnt use jubilee clips as the pipe is fairly soft metal and can get crushed.

Problem not bloody fixed though

[Larry Dickman]

ShampooEfficient said:

Vidal Baboon said:

welsh blackbird said:

Vidal Baboon said:

Yes no problem re-using them so long as you don't knacker it trying to slide it back.

Why not replace it with a jubilee clip?

Why bother, these are much easier to use.

Jubilees are much easier.

Jubilees aren't as good, they use those spring clips for a reason. A jubilee clip once tightened is then ridged so it will not compress any further, a spring clip will keep compressing when a tube is hot, plus a Jubilee can very easily be over tightened potentially damaging a rubber tube.

[Larry Dickman]

BonzoG said:

I had to replace those very same hoses on my '5. The compression clips were an absolute sodding nightmare, because if they are oriented the wrong way then you need hands the size of a 5 year old with the strength of hulk hogan to be able to reach down and get the pliers or Vise-Grips to them. It's cramped enough in there, even after removing the coil packs! Jubilees are the way to go.

http://www.jhmbuttco.com/acatalog/info_TPC0020.html

Edited by Larry Dickman on Saturday 27th November 17:08

[Fish981]

Larry Dickman said:

BonzoG said:

I had to replace those very same hoses on my '5. The compression clips were an absolute sodding nightmare, because if they are oriented the wrong way then you need hands the size of a 5 year old with the strength of hulk hogan to be able to reach down and get the pliers or Vise-Grips to them. It's cramped enough in there, even after removing the coil packs! Jubilees are the way to go.

http://www.jhmbuttco.com/acatalog/info_TPC0020.html

Edited by Larry Dickman on Saturday 27th November 17:08

Nearly the bestest tool I ever bought, not worth the hassle of using Jubilee clips when you've got one of them.