Emergency Services- Winter Tyres??
Emergency Services- Winter Tyres??
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jammy789

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13 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Just had a thought about this last night driving home in the snow, sorry if it's allready been discussed allready, but do any of the emergency servies have winter tyres on their cars? I know it may be expensive but just wondered as would help them?

HellDiver

5,708 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Don't be daft. That would be sensible.

mike50001

164 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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saw a fire engine yesterday with chains on

Steve_W

1,563 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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My OH asked me what snow socks are since she read the Berkshire NHS are buying them for their ambulance fleet.

When quizzed about why they weren't putting winter tyres on, they said something along the line of "the ambulances would be off the road for too long"!

That caused me a WTF? moment - ambulances aren't on the road 24/7 and must get regularly serviced so that statement made no sense to me.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

220 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.

Cost Captain

3,920 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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rhinochopig said:
In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.
Yeah but north yorks get much more manly winters than most of the rest of the country, so it can be justified. What about in places like Essex which has had ALOT more snow than people thought there would be?

Ruskie

4,360 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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rhinochopig said:
In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.
The response cars in N Yorkshire have winter Tyres fitted. Ambulances are provided with snow socks in case of difficulty.

Bosses have disco's and there are also some defenders on the fleet.

insanojackson

5,999 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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not a chance!!!!!!


normally in my area which is large we will have about 10-12 pandas out and about includinf focus astra and connect vans.

During these conditions we have the use of one xtrail.

God help us if there is a major emergency!

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

220 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Ruskie said:
rhinochopig said:
In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.
The response cars in N Yorkshire have winter Tyres fitted. Ambulances are provided with snow socks in case of difficulty.

Bosses have disco's and there are also some defenders on the fleet.
Did they have socks last year as our team drivers were pretty busy last year running escort etc.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

231 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Steve_W said:
My OH asked me what snow socks are since she read the Berkshire NHS are buying them for their ambulance fleet.

When quizzed about why they weren't putting winter tyres on, they said something along the line of "the ambulances would be off the road for too long"!

That caused me a WTF? moment - ambulances aren't on the road 24/7 and must get regularly serviced so that statement made no sense to me.
The probably would be off the road too long as if you bring the vehicles in one at a time then fit winter tyres it could take weeks and the last vehicle would be being brought in just after the thaw and then be on winter tyres for the remainder of the winter. Otherwise you bring a batch in fit 4 new tyres to each one in one go and hope you don't get a call that requires you to send several ambulances in one go.

OllieWinchester

5,694 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Our ambulance service have quite a few 4x4's, Disco 3s mainly.

Ruskie

4,360 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Ruskie said:
rhinochopig said:
In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.
The response cars in N Yorkshire have winter Tyres fitted. Ambulances are provided with snow socks in case of difficulty.

Bosses have disco's and there are also some defenders on the fleet.
Did they have socks last year as our team drivers were pretty busy last year running escort etc.
New this year.

Ruskie

4,360 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Ruskie said:
rhinochopig said:
In N Yorks the ambulance service don't. They often use Mountain Rescue landies to either escort them - so they can pull them out - or in extreme cases to transport the casualty.
The response cars in N Yorkshire have winter Tyres fitted. Ambulances are provided with snow socks in case of difficulty.

Bosses have disco's and there are also some defenders on the fleet.
Did they have socks last year as our team drivers were pretty busy last year running escort etc.
New this year.

Rubin215

2,084 posts

218 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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In my Fire and Rescue Service, no.

Purely down to cost. Snow tyres for LGV's are very expensive, and with cuts being pushed through nationwide they simply can't afford them.

My Service have devices on the appliances which lower down to the inside of the rear wheels and, as the vehicle drives, chains are thrown under the tyre to give grip.

Not perfect, but better than nothing.

K77 CTR

1,646 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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OllieWinchester said:
Our ambulance service have quite a few 4x4's, Disco 3s mainly.
But until we have done the driving course we aren't allowed to drive them!!! (can see that being thrown out the window pretty quickly when it snows)

PedantLosesGrip

4,106 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Many doctors in the dales choose a Subaru Forester or similar for house calls/emergency/etc though tends to be their car rather than official policy. Just practical.

BigS

873 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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They used to have a couple of these around here that only seemed to come out in the snow, haven't seen them this year though so don't know if they've still got them.


SunDiver

780 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I too am amazed that Emergency Services don't use winter tyres, especially in high rural areas, Scotland etc. I thought this was interesting - looks like some are at least thinking about it...

http://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/news/news_releas...

"A programme to fit the Service’s fleet of ambulances and response cars with winter tyres has almost been completed, and other contingency plans have been put into place to help get staff to work."

K77 CTR

1,646 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Apparently our cars have been taken off the roads as they are useless, now have fire brigade chauffeuring us about!

Basil Brush

5,504 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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There were a few ambulances around North Leeds last night with snow socks fitted. I was impressed by how one of them managed to get down and back up a pretty steep slope with about 6 inches of snow on it.