Housing Emergency Coalition: A call to action 15th December
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Won't somebody think of the disabled children?!!?!?
http://disabledpeopleprotest.wordpress.com/2010/11...
The new Housing Emergency Coalition has called a protest outside Downing St on Wednesday December 15th – they want people to take cardboard boxes and sleeping bags and after the Downing St protest disabled people will move to Trafalgar Square
The Housing Emergency Coalition against the Housing Benefit cap and social cleansing start to demonstrate outside Downing Street at about 12.30. They want people to take sleeping bags and cardboard boxes emblazoned with Housing Emergency on them as props to show the consequences of the coalition’s plans.
After this disabled people will move on to the Trafalgar Square xmas tree, at about 3, for some nativity themed photo ops. We will be visited by Joseph and Mary and their lovely donkey. We will meet them with placards carrying our borough names and turn them away.
Other ideas greatly appreciated. Offers of help greatly appreciated. Activists coming to the action loved and greatly adored. (especially in this weather).
http://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Day-of-Prot...
http://disabledpeopleprotest.wordpress.com/2010/11...
The new Housing Emergency Coalition has called a protest outside Downing St on Wednesday December 15th – they want people to take cardboard boxes and sleeping bags and after the Downing St protest disabled people will move to Trafalgar Square
The Housing Emergency Coalition against the Housing Benefit cap and social cleansing start to demonstrate outside Downing Street at about 12.30. They want people to take sleeping bags and cardboard boxes emblazoned with Housing Emergency on them as props to show the consequences of the coalition’s plans.
After this disabled people will move on to the Trafalgar Square xmas tree, at about 3, for some nativity themed photo ops. We will be visited by Joseph and Mary and their lovely donkey. We will meet them with placards carrying our borough names and turn them away.
Other ideas greatly appreciated. Offers of help greatly appreciated. Activists coming to the action loved and greatly adored. (especially in this weather).
http://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Day-of-Prot...
PintOfKittens said:
Is this the whole "The poor are being priced out of London" thing?
Yep. Because apparently it makes sense to put the 'poor' in the worlds most, or near most, expensive city.They could probably live the life of riley somewhere else at half the cost to the taxpayer, but in 21st century Britain, it isnt the taxpayers job to provide shelter and warmth, but shelter and warmth in the nicest house at the nicest address at someone's else's expense. Logically, only a small minority can experience this luxury, given the scarcity of such houses, but i guess fairness doesnt factor into who gets housing benefit, just which lord has a mansion they want to rent out.
12gauge said:
PintOfKittens said:
Is this the whole "The poor are being priced out of London" thing?
Yep. Because apparently it makes sense to put the 'poor' in the worlds most, or near most, expensive city.They could probably live the life of riley somewhere else at half the cost to the taxpayer, but in 21st century Britain, it isnt the taxpayers job to provide shelter and warmth, but shelter and warmth in the nicest house at the nicest address at someone's else's expense. Logically, only a small minority can experience this luxury, given the scarcity of such houses, but i guess fairness doesnt factor into who gets housing benefit, just which lord has a mansion they want to rent out.
king wkers - your getting priced out of london? fkING ACE! Gets my vote! I have to travel into London every day to get to my job (where I pay 40% tax and some of that money goes to sponging wkers) - price you wkers out of london, maybe I can get either a reduction in my tax or maybe I can live in London without spending 4000 million pounds a week on rent.I have to find a way home tonight after no trains, yet I still have to be back tomorrow morning, ready for work.
BrassMan said:
What a bunch of utter fkwits. Quoted from that group when a normal person asked how the hippies would reduce the defecit:Roving Greebo
Thank you Jorge for having the good manners at last to post in the right place ,im not a economist i dont understand figures so i cant really give you an answer you would like ,i have a solution tho ,but i doubt you wpould like that either ,but one never knows so here goes ,hey man that rhymes
ok i would scrap all the cars to start with ,and trains and planes ,then i would use the money raised to enable anyone who did not wish to be part of the new begining to leave the country,then i would spend the countrys reserves including private deposits held in banks,before abolishing money all together ,and then when everone was equal ,and none were no more equal than others . i would abolish all laws and introduce a consentual way for us all eo live happy ever after
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NoNeed said:
If they get there on there own and are able to stay/camp for the night. They can get a fking job!
king job!
I am classed 'disabled' due to issues with the joints on the right side of my body dislocating very easily, I could sit on my arse all day funded by the taxpayer if I wanted but instead I bought joint-supports to overcome the problem and take precautions to prevent my knee,ankle,elbows or fingers dislocating.While not always successful (currently sitting here recovering from a dislocated knee and rib which is great as cannot even use crutches
) I am able to earn and pay my way in society rather than becoming a drain. I even play ice hockey! (although non-contact obviously!)Very often a disability can be overcome, my friend has no forearms so works in a telecom centre using a headset (somehow he is able to use 'pincers' where his elbows should be to pick things up which I find incredible!), another chap I know has a 'chicken wing' arm he cannot use but he runs a bar and pulls pints no problem, another chappy lost a leg in an accident but works in a manufacturing factory. The problem with a lot of people is that they look for the easy way out, don't look for work that they can do (instead saying ' cannot do anything') and want everyone to feel sorry for them. While it's easy to fall into the benefits trap, I believe that those not trying to overcome their disability are letting themselves down.
Of course, there are those in genuine need of help and unable to care for themselves, but so many of the disabled can do more than they choose to do and do not need to rely on the state to survive.
Edited by Tsippy on Thursday 2nd December 00:36
Tsippy said:
NoNeed said:
If they get there on there own and are able to stay/camp for the night. They can get a fking job!
king job!I am classed 'disabled' due to issues with the joints on the right side of my body dislocating very easily, I could sit on my arse all day funded by the taxpayer if I wanted but instead I bought joint-supports to overcome the problem and take precautions to prevent my knee,ankle,elbows or fingers dislocating.While not always successful (currently sitting here recovering from a dislocated knee and rib which is great as cannot even use crutches
) I am able to earn and pay my way in society rather than becoming a drain. I even play ice hockey! (although non-contact obviously!)Very often a disability can be overcome, my friend has no forearms so works in a telecom centre using a headset (somehow he is able to use 'pincers' where his elbows should be to pick things up which I find incredible!), another chap I know has a 'chicken wing' arm he cannot use but he runs a bar and pulls pints no problem, another chappy lost a leg in an accident but works in a manufacturing factory. The problem with a lot of people is that they look for the easy way out, don't look for work that they can do (instead saying ' cannot do anything') and want everyone to feel sorry for them. While it's easy to fall into the benefits trap, I believe that those not trying to overcome their disability are letting themselves down.
Of course, there are those in genuine need of help and unable to care for themselves, but so many of the disabled can do more than they choose to do and do not need to rely on the state to survive.
Edited by Tsippy on Thursday 2nd December 00:36
Of course those with real needs should be taken care of whatever the cost. But if more people were like your good self there would be far more money for those with those exceptional needs.
Once again I doff my cap to you.
TVR Moneypit said:
NoNeed said:
Tsippy said:
NoNeed said:
If they get there on there own and are able to stay/camp for the night. They can get a fking job!
king job!I am classed 'disabled' due to issues with the joints on the right side of my body dislocating very easily, I could sit on my arse all day funded by the taxpayer if I wanted but instead I bought joint-supports to overcome the problem and take precautions to prevent my knee,ankle,elbows or fingers dislocating.While not always successful (currently sitting here recovering from a dislocated knee and rib which is great as cannot even use crutches
) I am able to earn and pay my way in society rather than becoming a drain. Very often a disability can be overcome, my friend has no forearms so works in a telecom centre using a headset (somehow he is able to use 'pincers' where his elbows should be to pick things up which I find incredible!), another chap I know has a 'chicken wing' arm he cannot use but he runs a bar and pulls pints no problem, another chappy lost a leg in an accident but works in a manufacturing factory.
Of course those with real needs should be taken care of whatever the cost. But if more people were like your good self there would be far more money for those with those exceptional needs.
Once again I doff my cap to you.
+2000!
There is a mindset of entitlement, like the phone in about people 'failing' the disabilty medical, a fat pie eating bint was whining how discriminatory it was, then a blind guy who worked full time came on and she nearly went ballistic when he said that 'disabled' people whined too much, and surely the people had passed the medical.
(My niece was in a supermarket and there were coupons on offer for free booze, cue mad scramble from crowd, but one bint was trying to force her way through the crowd and barriers, shouting 'I'm disabled, I should get it!' ( I would have loved to have the Assesors there, maybe they should do a 'sting' operation like they do for criminals and see how 'disabled' they really are.)
There is a mindset of entitlement, like the phone in about people 'failing' the disabilty medical, a fat pie eating bint was whining how discriminatory it was, then a blind guy who worked full time came on and she nearly went ballistic when he said that 'disabled' people whined too much, and surely the people had passed the medical.
(My niece was in a supermarket and there were coupons on offer for free booze, cue mad scramble from crowd, but one bint was trying to force her way through the crowd and barriers, shouting 'I'm disabled, I should get it!' ( I would have loved to have the Assesors there, maybe they should do a 'sting' operation like they do for criminals and see how 'disabled' they really are.)
pacman1 said:
PintOfKittens said:
I have to find a way home tonight after no trains, yet I still have to be back tomorrow morning, ready for work.
Could you not save yourself the hassle and cost by borrowing one of their cardboard boxes?king cardboard box in London? Im not on benefits you know!PintOfKittens said:
pacman1 said:
PintOfKittens said:
I have to find a way home tonight after no trains, yet I still have to be back tomorrow morning, ready for work.
Could you not save yourself the hassle and cost by borrowing one of their cardboard boxes?king cardboard box in London? Im not on benefits you know!munroman said:
+2000!
There is a mindset of entitlement, like the phone in about people 'failing' the disabilty medical, a fat pie eating bint was whining how discriminatory it was, then a blind guy who worked full time came on and she nearly went ballistic when he said that 'disabled' people whined too much, and surely the people had passed the medical.
(My niece was in a supermarket and there were coupons on offer for free booze, cue mad scramble from crowd, but one bint was trying to force her way through the crowd and barriers, shouting 'I'm disabled, I should get it!' ( I would have loved to have the Assesors there, maybe they should do a 'sting' operation like they do for criminals and see how 'disabled' they really are.)
Doesn't surprise me There is a mindset of entitlement, like the phone in about people 'failing' the disabilty medical, a fat pie eating bint was whining how discriminatory it was, then a blind guy who worked full time came on and she nearly went ballistic when he said that 'disabled' people whined too much, and surely the people had passed the medical.
(My niece was in a supermarket and there were coupons on offer for free booze, cue mad scramble from crowd, but one bint was trying to force her way through the crowd and barriers, shouting 'I'm disabled, I should get it!' ( I would have loved to have the Assesors there, maybe they should do a 'sting' operation like they do for criminals and see how 'disabled' they really are.)
It's like the ones who spend all day protesting on the internet, surely they could do an office job? (If they have an IQ that is)
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