Looking for a new class to race in
Looking for a new class to race in
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marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I am looking to race in a new class. Heads up is a must, for steet cars where your car doesnt have to MOTd run exhaust and slicks are ok. Something like NSCC / outlaw street with out the MOT ?

Is there such a class ?

wicked fish

526 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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not to my knowledge

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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marT350T said:
I am looking to race in a new class. Heads up is a must, for steet cars where your car doesnt have to MOTd run exhaust and slicks are ok. Something like NSCC / outlaw street with out the MOT ?

Is there such a class ?
If it doesn't need an MOT, exhaust and treaded tyres, then it isn't a street car.

Heads up class for door cars without the need for an MOT? That would very quickly become an arms race where the guy with the biggest pockets would simply strap one of Roger Johanssons 900ci nitrous motors into a supergas car, run a six, destroy the class and then wrap his internal organs around the finish line gantry...

chris89

165 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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if you are looking to run a car with just those simple "specs" looks like bracket racing for you, what class will depend how fast you can go

marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I run in a class at York raceway where the car has to be of streetable apperance ie working lights wipers , must have doors etc etc but doesnt need an MOT.

I enjoy the racing there but I like racing at different tracks also , but would like to race in a class other than RWYB.

I understand that in heads up racing that the person with the most monet usually winsbut I just prefer heads up
and going for pbs every run.

wicked fish

526 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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there isnt a class like that in british drag racing,
heads up no breakout you have a choice od street eliminator and the car must be legal
or super modified where it is a pure race car class
the only other class's for door cars thats heads up are pro stock or pro mod
take your pick


central

16,745 posts

238 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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A quick taste of Street Eliminator -

http://www.quartermilehigh.com/html/2010_street_el...


marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I am aware of street eliminator and have followed it closely for past 5 years. In fact John Sleath is building my new motor as we speak. I am hoping that my car will run low 9s on motor and hopefully dip into the 8s at some point using nitrous, but still even if it was MOTd it still wouldnt be competetive.

tony g

60 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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As youre clearly going to spend a small fortune on engine etc why not just get the car mot'd and a spare set of wheels for treads and open up your options a lot? You can get pb's on both sets of tyres that way smile

Tony

marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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That maybe the way forward Tony

obsession

94 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Just out interest Martyn, what did you decide on motor wise?

obsession

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214 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Edited by obsession on Friday 3rd December 21:48

marT350T

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240 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I went for a 572 11.5:1 (pump gas)consisting of a Dart big M block, Keith black pistons, Eagle rods and crank, RHS CNC ported heads with 376 cc runner and this cam http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Detai... Using the 1050 dominator and inlet manifold of my 468.

Hoping for 800+ HP

obsession

94 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I'd say that should be good for 800 plus. Our iron blocked, 489 with dart pro 1 heads, a .600 lift cam, went 8.70's in the end normally aspirated with the old auto, with around 12:5:1. Just out of interest what does the car weigh now?

Edited by obsession on Friday 3rd December 22:23

marT350T

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240 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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It quite heavy, full interior and glass but has fibreglass boot lid front wings and bonnet. I would guess some between 2800-3000 lbs

Bigmouse

197 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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What are you trying to achieve? do you just want to step up and join a 'pro' series for the experience? its a lot of work, generally a lot less track time than a rwyb and a lot less forgiving if you make a mistake where you're back on the trailer rather than driving around to the start line again. But is also very satisfying when it all goes right on the day and you go a couple of rounds.

Outlaw Street is run by, and full of, a nice bunch of guys but I'm not sure about the MOT bit; its mostly run at RWYB's, Peak Performance days and some of the core lifestyle events like the Mopars and Garys Picnic so maybe not so different to what you are doing now.

Cost of entry is completely different too; some RWYB-ers are shocked to see just how much it costs to enter a 3 day event, never mind the actual cost of running the car.

If you're not to worried about being in the front half of the pack then Street Eliminator is probably the way to go. You'll be up against some really big guns; proharged, twin turboed, big inch nitrous motors etc but they are street cars. An MOT isn't an issue for most of them.

If you do want to be in the top half, or even in the running, then as has been said many, many times, heads up is down to pocket depth so be prepared to dig VERY deep. I'm sure it was Jon Webster who told me he was of the opinion that its probably cheaper to build a Pro Mod car than to build a competitive car for SE!!

Edited by Bigmouse on Sunday 5th December 11:46


Edited by Bigmouse on Sunday 5th December 11:47

redvictor

3,152 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Bigmouse said:
I'm sure it was Jon Webster who told me he was of the opinion that its probably cheaper to build a Pro Mod car than to build a competitive car for SE!!
He was right!...biggrin

obsession

94 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Super mod is relatively cost effective form of heads up racing, it was designed to be that way, and you don't need a big inch motor to be competitive or spend mega bucks putting a package together. As we've said before a sumo type motor would have been an ideal combination for both street and strip, and with the gas would have easily put your Camaro into the mid to low eights with a real safe tune up. You could even have used your 468 as the base, our original 468 went 7.91 with very little knowledge at the time of what we were doing, and that was just using the gas on a plate only system, it wasn't until we stroked the motor and chaged the crank etc and went out to 489 that we installed a fogger. that way you could have entered sumo, maybe not as competitive initially but you would have had some fun :-)

marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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I dont think i would go street eliminator but may try the NSCC if my car would go through the MOT without much bother. I am never going to be a contender in any class really as I work offshore on a oil and gas platform on a fixed rota so I always miss races.

I just prefer heads up racing to bracket racing. I just trying to find out if there was a class that I could race in and race at all 3 uk tracks.

marT350T

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948 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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obsession said:
Super mod is relatively cost effective form of heads up racing, it was designed to be that way, and you don't need a big inch motor to be competitive or spend mega bucks putting a package together. As we've said before a sumo type motor would have been an ideal combination for both street and strip, and with the gas would have easily put your Camaro into the mid to low eights with a real safe tune up. You could even have used your 468 as the base, our original 468 went 7.91 with very little knowledge at the time of what we were doing, and that was just using the gas on a plate only system, it wasn't until we stroked the motor and chaged the crank etc and went out to 489 that we installed a fogger. that way you could have entered sumo, maybe not as competitive initially but you would have had some fun :-)
Is there a website with the rules and regs of super mod anywhere ?