PH Engineers, Architects and All Round Geniuses sought
PH Engineers, Architects and All Round Geniuses sought
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Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I had an attempted delivery of a Sofa on Thursday. The dimensions were 230x78x76cm. The sofa couldn't get to the top of the steps. The delivery guys said even if it had, it wouldn't go any further because of the slope on the roof (caused by the next set of steps).

There is an existing sofa in my flat, with dimensions of 166x95x68cm, which I presume fitted around that corner.

I am looking at an alternative from the same manufacturer of the failed delivery where the dimensions would be 154x78x76cm.

This is the turn:





Which measurements do the PH collective need to tell if it will fit?

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Thinking about it some more. If it can be stood up at the top of the stairs, it should go round easily I think?

The width up the stairs is 83cm, from railing to window is 85cm and along the corridor is over 100cm...

pembo

1,237 posts

217 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I remember having this same problem but at the time I had a lot of spare time on my hands and made a model of both the sofa and staircase on AutoCAD and made sure it fitted (only just) the delivery guys weren't keen on giving it a go at first though.

You also can't be sure what the packaging will be like, you don't want to have to take it all off and rub it along the walls so you will need to leave a safety margin for the padding.

Good luck!

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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why couldn't you get it up the stairs?

simply, what is the height of the ceiling? if it will stand up, it will go round. even if not it should still make it with a bit of jimmying.

failing that, send it by email.

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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The guys who tried to deliver the sofa said there were 2 issues:

1) Getting the sofa upright at the top of the stairs (it was too tall)

2) Swinging the sofa over the rail (the pitch from the next stairs severely limits this)

The new sofa i'm looking at should stand up easily (being 76cm shorter) and should fit through the gap between the railing and window...

I think I've convinced myself it will fit... any naysayers?

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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shirt said:
why couldn't you get it up the stairs?

simply, what is the height of the ceiling? if it will stand up, it will go round. even if not it should still make it with a bit of jimmying.

failing that, send it by email.
See above. It wouldn't clear the top step by about 5-10cm, then it was too big to be shuffled around the railing...

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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course it will you muppet, it's shorter than you are if it's stood on one end.

if your ceiling is more than 7.5ft [looks it] then even the larger one will go round.


shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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okey dokey. guess your block was built for midgets!

short one will breeze round. ask the shop if the arms of the sofa come off, then the big one will too.

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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shirt said:
course it will you muppet, it's shorter than you are if it's stood on one end.

if your ceiling is more than 7.5ft [looks it] then even the larger one will go round.
Ceiling is 250cm. The larger one did not fit.

GarryA

4,700 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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The key to getting a sofa up a flight of stairs like that is to 'pivot'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_PklVas9cA&fea...

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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ceiling allows 200mm clearance, railing to window allows 70-90mm clearance depending on sofa orientation.

shirt is confused. must be home time.

911motorsport

7,251 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Consruct a life size model from foam or cardboard boxes.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

233 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Another option is take your windows out and pull it up through the new big hole then refit windows.

Mobile Chicane

21,825 posts

236 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Dissemble then reassemble in situ.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Pigeon

18,535 posts

270 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Ask Richard.

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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PIVOT!!




Edited by speed_monkey on Friday 3rd December 17:26

Poledriver

29,329 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Simples! smile

Two easy options:-
1) Crane it in through a window.
2) Move to a real house!

Can't see the problem myself.

zollburgers

1,284 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I used to be a delivery driver for a DIY shop back in the day and I became a master of getting st into st where st just should not go.

Did you see them attempt to get it up there? Did it look impossible? Doesn't look too bad at all really.

Dr Wolff

2,203 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Don't try and stand it upright to turn it. If you carry it tipped towards the front of the sofa, with the back of the sofa uppermost, the top of the sofa back towards the bannister and the underside of the sofa nearest the wall, then the leading arm of the sofa goes round the bannister while the back of the sofa goes over the bannister. You can then almost lift the whole thing over the bannister as you turn. This will give you a much tighter turning circle than trying to get the whole thing round the bannister or trying to stand it upright where there is limited headroom.

Ross is right, in principal.