Man challenges Police State Hysteria, gets taken away.
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A businessman has been charged under the Terrorism Act after he broke through a police cordon and tipped open two suspect packages to prove they were harmless.
James Mullan ducked under police tape and emptied old clothes and shoes from bags left in Ipswich town centre after become frustrated by the lengthy wait for a bomb scare to be resolved.
A businessman has been charged under the Terrorism Act after he broke through a police cordon and tipped open two suspect packages to prove they were harmless.
James Mullan ducked under police tape and emptied old clothes and shoes from bags left in Ipswich town centre after become frustrated by the lengthy wait for a bomb scare to be resolved.
EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
He tried to help, and succeeded. He got arrested for his trouble.He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
"Police State Hysteria" does strike me as a bit hysterical, though!
Don
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EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
If it was a real bomb, they wouldnt send in the Police, it would be the army, and he wouldnt be able to get anywhere close to the 'package'. Just another false flag to keep the X-factor generation in a suitable state of fear. He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
God only knows what happened after the poor guy got taken away to force his state of 'regret'
12gauge said:
EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
If it was a real bomb, they wouldnt send in the Police, it would be the army, and he wouldnt be able to get anywhere close to the 'package'. Just another false flag to keep the X-factor generation in a suitable state of fear. He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
God only knows what happened after the poor guy got taken away to force his state of 'regret'
They were waiting for the army chaps to come from Colchester.
Don
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don4l said:
12gauge said:
EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
If it was a real bomb, they wouldnt send in the Police, it would be the army, and he wouldnt be able to get anywhere close to the 'package'. Just another false flag to keep the X-factor generation in a suitable state of fear. He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
God only knows what happened after the poor guy got taken away to force his state of 'regret'
They were waiting for the army chaps to come from Colchester.
Don
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I maintain my position though.
EDLT said:
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
He seems more clever than the police lot, because he saw the bags for what they really were ... bags with clothe sin them ... as opposed to the one in a billion chance of it being a bombEdited by rypt on Saturday 4th December 15:22
rypt said:
EDLT said:
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
He seems more cleverer than the police lot, because he saw the bags for what they really were ... bags with clothe sin them ... as opposed to the one in a billion chance of it being a bomb
Happened where I worked, a blue drum fell off a pick up truck it, looked like this,
Security guard instantly thinks bomb and has the whole area shut down and evacuated - Corus (Tata) Steel Scun thorpe.
Mass panic ensues, the police turn up much later and we find out its full of oily rags for disposal.
Security guard instantly thinks bomb and has the whole area shut down and evacuated - Corus (Tata) Steel Scun thorpe.
Mass panic ensues, the police turn up much later and we find out its full of oily rags for disposal.
12gauge said:
EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
If it was a real bomb, they wouldnt send in the Police, it would be the army, and he wouldnt be able to get anywhere close to the 'package'. Just another false flag to keep the X-factor generation in a suitable state of fear. He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
God only knows what happened after the poor guy got taken away to force his state of 'regret'
If it was a real bomb? I think if you read the article you will see that the army were en route.
Further, the army are not always called out. In certain circs the police will deal completely. Never been moved away from specific areas of a British airport when an unattended and unclaimed bag is found? They don't wait for the army. The police deal completely with suspect parcels. The army are only called out if it is confirmed as a IED.
Do you think that if a suspect package is found then the army puts the cordon on?
The watchmaker would not, I assume, have been told of any specific threat.
I'm told that people who plant bombs do not normally put a warning triangle on them to say they are dangerous.
Bomb squad officers do not act macho, rush in and open bags. 'Our' one in the City, Kenneth Howorth, when I first joined was blown up in a Wimpy bar when trying to defuse a bomb. He was painstaking and only took carefully considered risks. He took one too many but it was in the full understanding of what could have happened to him.
I've seen the bomb squad and army ordenance in operation and they take a lot of things into consideration. The time delay of street marketers is not one of them.
And your last sentence means what, that the police used unlawful force on him?
Derek Smith said:
12gauge said:
EDLT said:
How did he challenge police state hysteria?
He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
If it was a real bomb, they wouldnt send in the Police, it would be the army, and he wouldnt be able to get anywhere close to the 'package'. Just another false flag to keep the X-factor generation in a suitable state of fear. He's an impatient mong who didn't think there would be consequences for breaking through a police corden to tamper with a suspicious package.
God only knows what happened after the poor guy got taken away to force his state of 'regret'
If it was a real bomb? I think if you read the article you will see that the army were en route.
Further, the army are not always called out. In certain circs the police will deal completely. Never been moved away from specific areas of a British airport when an unattended and unclaimed bag is found? They don't wait for the army. The police deal completely with suspect parcels. The army are only called out if it is confirmed as a IED.
Do you think that if a suspect package is found then the army puts the cordon on?
The watchmaker would not, I assume, have been told of any specific threat.
I'm told that people who plant bombs do not normally put a warning triangle on them to say they are dangerous.
Bomb squad officers do not act macho, rush in and open bags. 'Our' one in the City, Kenneth Howorth, when I first joined was blown up in a Wimpy bar when trying to defuse a bomb. He was painstaking and only took carefully considered risks. He took one too many but it was in the full understanding of what could have happened to him.
I've seen the bomb squad and army ordenance in operation and they take a lot of things into consideration. The time delay of street marketers is not one of them.
And your last sentence means what, that the police used unlawful force on him?
I'm sure there is plenty of other legislation that would cover the situation but that particular piece seems to open to misuse.
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