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tontoro

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271 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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I've finally got all the gear together, and have bought a piece of crappy ('finest') ribeye from Tesco as a first experiment. Should be fun





Shaw Tarse

31,875 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Waiting for after pics.

tontoro

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271 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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the "during" pics are rather un-appetising looking right now!

21TonyK

13,225 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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What are you using as the water bath, is that a rice cooker?

I've experimented with various cuts of meat and played around doing vegetables etc with varying degrees of success. And, yes, you're right. Half cooked steak doesn't look particularly nice.

What temp and time are you using?

tontoro

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Saturday 4th December 2010
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21TonyK said:
What are you using as the water bath, is that a rice cooker?

I've experimented with various cuts of meat and played around doing vegetables etc with varying degrees of success. And, yes, you're right. Half cooked steak doesn't look particularly nice.

What temp and time are you using?
yes, it's a rice cooker that i picked up as a bargain on ebay. I'm starting off with 129F (using F not C as without decimals it's more accurate). Going for 1.5hrs - but I believe anything up to 8hrs is fine without it becoming too tender/mushy.

Have you any recommendations for online references about sous-vide?

21TonyK

13,225 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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tontoro said:
21TonyK said:
What are you using as the water bath, is that a rice cooker?

I've experimented with various cuts of meat and played around doing vegetables etc with varying degrees of success. And, yes, you're right. Half cooked steak doesn't look particularly nice.

What temp and time are you using?
yes, it's a rice cooker that i picked up as a bargain on ebay. I'm starting off with 129F (using F not C as without decimals it's more accurate). Going for 1.5hrs - but I believe anything up to 8hrs is fine without it becoming too tender/mushy.

Have you any recommendations for online references about sous-vide?
I couldn't find a huge amount online but I did buy "Under Pressure" by Thomas Keller which has a lot of useful info. I have found that normal steak cuts, rump, sirloin, fillet etc do not take much cooking at all. Maybe 1-2 hours tops at 50 deg. C. I did do some braising steak for 7 hours and while it was totally transformed in terms of texture it didn't have the flavour. I also did marinated chicken which was very odd as while it was cooked it was so soft it felt odd to eat.

My next attempt will be with fish. Cod at 40 degrees for 1 hour.

tontoro

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Saturday 4th December 2010
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have you discovered this yet?

http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.html

I know what you mean about the checkin - I used to wrap it in cling film, insert a thermometer, and cook very slowly in a very low oven until it got to 60C. It's cooked, but as you say, almost too tender.

How do you brown your steaks after they are cooked, I have a blow torch, but might try a very hot pan instead

what's your setup, DIY like mine, or a proper one?

Edited by tontoro on Saturday 4th December 18:11

21TonyK

13,225 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Saw that ages ago, lost the link so thanks for that one.

I bought a second hand commercial vac pac machine for next to nothing so got that part of it covered. To cook I use a 12 litre tray of water in an oven with a digital probe in the water. Because it's a large volume of water its fairly easy to get a constant temperature but I am considering buying a cheap water bath off ebay, £250'ish.

shirt

25,326 posts

229 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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what are you using for temp. control, just the element in the rice cooker?

jeffuk

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188 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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tontoro said:
21TonyK said:
Have you any recommendations for online references about sous-vide?
The previous link is the best one ......

I'm a great fan of sous vide - and in my view the bible is Douglas E Baldwin and his book is well worth the cash as it gives all cooking temps and times in one reference.

http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.html

tontoro

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3,516 posts

271 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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yes, the rice cooker is the sole heating unit





verdict - nicely cooked, ste steak

tontoro

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Saturday 4th December 2010
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oh yes, 129F/54C is indeed a little bit over for my tastes

tontoro

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Monday 20th December 2010
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just had some salmon mi cuit. Easily the best thing so far. 116F for 40 minutes, then 30 seconds mega hot to crisp the skin. Seriously, seriously good.

Pete Franklin

849 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Salmon mi cuit was the best thing that I have done sousvide as well. It is easy to do with rudimentary equipment as well as it doesn't take too long so is possible to do on the stove top with reasonable accuracy. I recommend it as an introduction to the technique.

Pete Franklin

849 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Salmon mi cuit was the best thing that I have done sousvide as well. It is easy to do with rudimentary equipment as well as it doesn't take too long so is possible to do on the stove top with reasonable accuracy. I recommend it as an introduction to the technique.

21TonyK

13,225 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Anyone tried loin of venison, going to treat it like fillet and do 50 degrees for an hour before finishing in a pan unless anyone screams something else?

tontoro

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Tuesday 4th January 2011
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sounds right, although you might need more time depending on thickness

21TonyK

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237 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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tontoro said:
sounds right, although you might need more time depending on thickness
By the time it's tied and moulded it should be about 50mm round so I'll try an hour, probe it and if need be re-pack and put it back in. Made the risotto cakes tonight and the sauce so it should be a quick simple one to put together.

tontoro

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Tuesday 4th January 2011
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21TonyK said:
tontoro said:
sounds right, although you might need more time depending on thickness
By the time it's tied and moulded it should be about 50mm round so I'll try an hour, probe it and if need be re-pack and put it back in. Made the risotto cakes tonight and the sauce so it should be a quick simple one to put together.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080804162204/http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.html

apparently you need more like 3 hrs (from 3C)

21TonyK

13,225 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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tontoro said:
21TonyK said:
tontoro said:
sounds right, although you might need more time depending on thickness
By the time it's tied and moulded it should be about 50mm round so I'll try an hour, probe it and if need be re-pack and put it back in. Made the risotto cakes tonight and the sauce so it should be a quick simple one to put together.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080804162204/http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.html

apparently you need more like 3 hrs (from 3C)
Good link, does look like nearly 3 hours needed. Might go with 2 hours, I like my venison *very* rare wink