Hi - New Member / Advice Appreciated / Winter Handling!
Hi - New Member / Advice Appreciated / Winter Handling!
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REDC4S

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17 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Hi there,

Loved Reading on here but never posted.....ok here's my problem - I'm luckily enough a week old owner of a 997 C4S Gen2, it has been a horrendous wek with my car slipping and sliding everywhere and my wife spinning it completely on a slightly icy road..........It was supplied on Fresh Michelin Pilot Sports from OPC Bournemouth.

It's my 3rd Porsche, (Cayman S / 997 Gen 1) , and I cant remember ever having issues such as these in either of those cars?

I'm searching for winter tyres - but was I expecting too much from the 4 wheel Drive in the 4S? - it is a manual

Any advice on tyres appreciated, I'm a bit confused, and my wife doesnt even want to go near the car - preffering our "cooking" Volvo which flies through the snow / ice on well worn tyres!

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

209 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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N rated Nokian WR - cheap but effective - as soon as its over 7 degrees get the Michelin back on and get them scrubbed in.

Wills2

29,840 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Slow in and slightly less slow out.

REDC4S

Original Poster:

17 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Thanks 6C4.....all four, or just rears?

Wills - Lol....advice taken on board, if it had'nt been my wife (slow in, slow out) I would put it down to my poor car control!

Wills2

29,840 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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On a serious note you can get a set of winter wheels and tyres from the OPC that will help alot.

Great car enjoy it....

DavidAL

53 posts

195 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Yes, I second the above advice, winter tyres, in the correct spec for the car (see the manual for sizing and specs etc).. Only slight problem is that you might be needing a second set of rims for them, as the specified wheel size might be slightly different.. Check with the dealer..

I have them on my (snap.. also a week old) car and have not broken traction once during the recent snow and ice..

Winter tyres are not just for snow and Ice, too.. but for cold weather in general.. the rubber reacts better in the cold..

FWIW, I have Pirelli Sottorosso tyres.. they are the only ones homologated for my particular car..

Hope this helps..
Dave

Trev450

6,772 posts

203 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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REDC4S said:
Thanks 6C4.....all four, or just rears?
Definately all 4.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

209 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Trev450 said:
REDC4S said:
Thanks 6C4.....all four, or just rears?
Definately all 4.
Yep all 4 - enjoy the car and the snow/ice..once you are on winter tyres you get a smug b'stard grin for free!

Dr S

5,159 posts

257 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Most importantly, you need to switch PSM off to enjoy a proper dab of oppo

REDC4S

Original Poster:

17 posts

191 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Much thanks for all the feedback....spoke to my local OPC this morning (Colchester) who are suggesting 18" Wheels and with Winter Tyres.....hadnt't budgeted for this little expense so soon into owning the car....cheaper than spinning it gracefully into a ditch I guess!

SFO

5,191 posts

214 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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my OPC is offering 18" alloys (Boxster S II) and tyres (Michelin Alpin N rated) fitted for £1776 all in.

Should only be slightly more for a 997 (wider rears).

What price did Colchester quote you?

REDC4S

Original Poster:

17 posts

191 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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classic OPC.....and I thought Colchester were ok!
Went in this morning....was told Porsche nationally have no Winter Tyres and I am looking at 8 weeks lead time........however.....if I order Winter Tyrs and new Rims as part of a special "Winter Package" it can be fitted in 3 days at a mere cost of £3700inc Vat...to replace the EXACT same alloy wheels with the week old one's I have.......

Does anyone else feel like OPC's see punters as some sort of cash machine on legs???

Trev450

6,772 posts

203 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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I purchased a S/H set of rims from Porsche Apart and new tyres from MyTyres and it came to a total of £1600. That was for a Cayman S though but still 18's.

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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gentle on the pedals

for me, when the weather is like this, I am not interested in taking the porker out: not due to how it handles but because there are too many numpties with no ability and not enough caution near expensive to mend metal for my liking

I too have a volvo (a 10 year old V70 cross country) that seems to thrive in the snow and I take that instead

SFO

5,191 posts

214 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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REDC4S said:
classic OPC.....and I thought Colchester were ok!
Went in this morning....was told Porsche nationally have no Winter Tyres and I am looking at 8 weeks lead time........however.....if I order Winter Tyrs and new Rims as part of a special "Winter Package" it can be fitted in 3 days at a mere cost of £3700inc Vat...to replace the EXACT same alloy wheels with the week old one's I have.......

Does anyone else feel like OPC's see punters as some sort of cash machine on legs???
My OPC said 4 to 9 days lead time

REDC4S

Original Poster:

17 posts

191 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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blimey, reading everyone else's prices/quotes it seems I am getting stung.....
JP, thanks for advice but the car gets used everyday so needs to be resolved, yes my 5 year old C30 blitzes through the snow on considerably worn Bridgestones.....
Again, everyone thanks for all the feedback - always an avid reader on Pistonheads but never joined in, well worth it for the advice.

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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just a thought - check they are inflated at the proper pressure

it shouldn't make that much difference, but its worth a look

pikey

7,704 posts

315 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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REDC4S said:
Went in this morning....was told Porsche nationally have no Winter Tyres and I am looking at 8 weeks lead time........however.....if I order Winter Tyrs and new Rims as part of a special "Winter Package" it can be fitted in 3 days at a mere cost of £3700inc Vat...to replace the EXACT same alloy wheels with the week old one's I have.......
Went through something similar recently.

I was told that they have pre-prepared wheels with winter tyres already fitted that come straight from a central Porsche distribution point to the OPC. However, if you want winter tyres fitted onto your existing wheels then that's through a different supply chain, which (it appears from my experience) they are experiencing problems obtaining. Knowing Porsche's control of OPCs I would imagine they don't have much freedom to look for other suppliers.

As they couldn't guarantee availability or date, my solution was through Event-Tyres. One call and a chap turned up to my house a few days later and fitted them (approved, N-rated Pirellis) on the same wheels.

My winter-tyre hunt started about a month ago, before this ice, snow and cold nastiness. I wouldn't be surprised if it's far more difficult to source such tyres now.


williaa68

1,540 posts

197 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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RedC4S - is that 18s or 19s they are quoting you for? Like Trev above, I bought a second hand set of rims and had new sottozeros fitted - I think they are the only N rated 19inch tyre. Total cost for the lot (admittedly done in September) was £1700 for 19inch rims and tyres. I would ring round a couple of OPC's if your arent in the wilds somewhere and get quotes. Also consider joining Porsche Club GB. Quite a few OPC's give 10% off parts (eg Tonbridge, my local OPC) for Porsche Club members and at £65 a year it would pay for itself three times over with a wheel and tyre package! They really do make an enormous difference. My biggest problem last week wasnt traction but the car turning into a snow plough as the snow was so deep!

UVB

557 posts

224 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Hmm I was thinking about calling Colchester today to see if they could do a good price on some 18" rims for a Cayman S for exactly the same purpose (just the rims..I have the tyres already). If you do find any other OPC's in the area doing a good price please post as I could be interested.