4x4s cannot corner or brake in snow.....
4x4s cannot corner or brake in snow.....
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Guyr

Original Poster:

2,504 posts

303 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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....if they are on summer tyres......

Unfortunately like many 4x4 owners, this Lexus driver didn't understand that it no more grip for cornering/braking than any other car on fat summer tyres.

My rwd on winter tyres had no such problems.


jbi

12,697 posts

225 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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teaching your granny to suck eggs?

Conian

8,030 posts

222 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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so they cant corner or brake at all in snow?

andy43

12,417 posts

275 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Is it that time already?

y2blade

56,254 posts

236 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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...oh man

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

211 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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I met one at the weekend!

Referring to my Corsa, she said; "Wow, you managed to get down the lane in THAT? I think only people who drive 4x4s should be allowed on the roads where there is this much snow. People who drive cars like that just cause hold-ups for those with 4x4s."

Referring to her Land Cruiser, she said: "You can drive that in the snow in exactly the same way as when it's dry."

What a pompous old bh. I was amused to note that her car had a fresh scrape on the bumper...

cahami

1,248 posts

227 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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I give up, maybee only driving gods can corner and brake in snow?

GTIR

24,741 posts

287 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Much that I'm a fan of them I'm getting sick of people going on about those things that can't be mentioned, W***** T****, it's doing my 'ed in! rage


STOP IT!


STOP IT!


STOP IT!


STOP IT!


STOP IT!


STOP IT!

MGZRod

8,147 posts

197 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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I think most folk are missing the point of the op...

Sounds like another ignorant driver not realising their car isn't perfect in all conditions without modifying it to match.

The Wookie

14,185 posts

249 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Oh FFS give it a rest, there's dozens of normal cars that have been binned around here too. It's like a Labour transport policy conference around here at the moment with the anti-4x4 sentiment, only with even more underlying smugness.

Guyr

Original Poster:

2,504 posts

303 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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MGZRod said:
I think most folk are missing the point of the op...

Sounds like another ignorant driver not realising their car isn't perfect in all conditions without modifying it to match.
Well-spotted smile

cahami

1,248 posts

227 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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In heavy snow i find my slicks work very well, they act the same as snow socks,
The mollecular structure of the snow makes it bind together and increases the grip levels

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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TBH, in that car in particular, that pic could just be another entry for the "bad parking" thread....;-)

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

267 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Round this way drivers of large 4x4s appear to believe there's a force-field around their vehicle where the normal laws of physics don't apply. Hence loads of the things sliding sideways round roundabouts and generally failing to stay on the carriageway.

Mind you....

ideaideaidea

these sideways expeditions onto the verge are the first time a lot of them have been "off road"! laugh

rb5230

11,657 posts

193 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Guyr said:
This Lexus driver didn't understand that it has no more grip for cornering than any other car on fat summer tyres.
wrong, they do have more grip for cornering just like they do in the wet or dry, braking on the other hand you are right.

monthefish

20,467 posts

252 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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rb5230 said:
Guyr said:
This Lexus driver didn't understand that it has no more grip for cornering than any other car on fat summer tyres.
wrong, they do have more grip for cornering just like they do in the wet or dry, braking on the other hand you are right.
thinfourth2 said:
me said:
4wd makes no difference under braking (with clutch depressed).
It does actually

deeen

6,259 posts

266 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Max_Torque said:
TBH, in that car in particular, that pic could just be another entry for the "bad parking" thread....;-)
Or the "turning left without indicating" thread?

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

211 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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monthefish said:
rb5230 said:
Guyr said:
This Lexus driver didn't understand that it has no more grip for cornering than any other car on fat summer tyres.
wrong, they do have more grip for cornering just like they do in the wet or dry, braking on the other hand you are right.
thinfourth2 said:
me said:
4wd makes no difference under braking (with clutch depressed).
It does actually
See? This topic IS still open for debate! biggrin

Conian

8,030 posts

222 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Mr Gear said:
See? This topic IS still open for debate! biggrin
ooooooh no it isn't

M Powered

349 posts

230 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Guyr said:
....if they are on summer tyres......

Unfortunately like many 4x4 owners, this Lexus driver didn't understand that it no more grip for cornering/braking than any other car on fat summer tyres.

My rwd on winter tyres had no such problems.

I agree with the 'invincible in a 4WD' sentiment, but the Lexus isn't strictly a true 4WD (engine + EV motor drive the front axle, a separate EV motor drives the rear), depending on the conditions (not weather!), torque can be provided (or used to regenerate energy) to the separate axles in a variety of ways. Just don't park forwards against a wall down a hill with a flat battery wink