Speed Camara Detectors
Discussion
Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm sure it has, I'm using my iPhone do can't do a search.
I'm after opinions on what's the best one really.
Are the portable ones just as good as the installed ones?
Ideally I don't really want to pay a subscription and don't want it mounted to the windowscreen.
So over to you PH's fire away...
I'm after opinions on what's the best one really.
Are the portable ones just as good as the installed ones?
Ideally I don't really want to pay a subscription and don't want it mounted to the windowscreen.
So over to you PH's fire away...
Diablos-666 said:
Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm sure it has, I'm using my iPhone do can't do a search.
I'm after opinions on what's the best one really.
Are the portable ones just as good as the installed ones?
Ideally I don't really want to pay a subscription and don't want it mounted to the windowscreen.
So over to you PH's fire away...
Road Angel mobile database is updated by the community so that if a mobile van is spotted, it can be reported and allerted to all other subscribers in real time using the GPRS network.I'm after opinions on what's the best one really.
Are the portable ones just as good as the installed ones?
Ideally I don't really want to pay a subscription and don't want it mounted to the windowscreen.
So over to you PH's fire away...
Tomtom live has a subscription service for road angel so it can be integrated into their Sat Nav. I have had no points (touch wood) since i subscribed in 2006. I drive 1000 miles a week across the country so its done me well.
I am not aware of anything that does not have a subscription of somesort.
Just upgraded to the new PogoAlert+ which is tiny and comes with a dash mount and windscreen so you can choose. Either way very discreet.
http://www.pogogps.com/pogoalert_plus.asp
Just upgraded to the new PogoAlert+ which is tiny and comes with a dash mount and windscreen so you can choose. Either way very discreet.
http://www.pogogps.com/pogoalert_plus.asp
Thanks guys, I'll have a look at those options.
I don't need one with a sat nav (already have that) as I've just had a new sat nav system installed but this one doesn't come with the camara detector.
Are the fixed ones easy to instal as the reason I got the fixed nav was because I hate wires hanging down.
I don't need one with a sat nav (already have that) as I've just had a new sat nav system installed but this one doesn't come with the camara detector.
Are the fixed ones easy to instal as the reason I got the fixed nav was because I hate wires hanging down.
I have a Snooper S4 Neo with the RD100 Add on I do pay a subscription.
I had mine installed by the guy that fits (fitted as most of the them come as standard now) our Company Car Kits.
There is no hanging wires the RD100 is behind the Rear View Mirror so I can't see it (although a Passanger could) with the Wire going into the Headlining down the inside of the Pillar and the Snooper itself is wired in behind the Dash.
Cost me £40 to have it installed like that
I had mine installed by the guy that fits (fitted as most of the them come as standard now) our Company Car Kits.
There is no hanging wires the RD100 is behind the Rear View Mirror so I can't see it (although a Passanger could) with the Wire going into the Headlining down the inside of the Pillar and the Snooper itself is wired in behind the Dash.
Cost me £40 to have it installed like that
I doubt many people will have heard of these, but the Novus GPS Rider is absolutely brilliant.
Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Edited by wiffmaster on Wednesday 8th December 19:20
As the OP already knows, the GPS database-driven systems are very different from true detectors.
A few years ago the Valentine One ( www.valentine1.com ) was the gold standard, I'm not sure if that's still the case.
I have a Beltronics RX 65 ( www.beltronics.com ) (chosen after reading some reviews) but don't use it very often, purely because it's a faff having to plug it in and mount it for every journey. I'm going to get one of these www.blendmount.com and one of these www.stealthcords.com so I can do a permanent install on the cheap.
Regards,
Adam
A few years ago the Valentine One ( www.valentine1.com ) was the gold standard, I'm not sure if that's still the case.
I have a Beltronics RX 65 ( www.beltronics.com ) (chosen after reading some reviews) but don't use it very often, purely because it's a faff having to plug it in and mount it for every journey. I'm going to get one of these www.blendmount.com and one of these www.stealthcords.com so I can do a permanent install on the cheap.
Regards,
Adam
Edited by adamfogerty on Wednesday 8th December 19:55
wiffmaster said:
I doubt many people will have heard of these, but the Novus GPS Rider is absolutely brilliant.
Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Been having a gander at this one, it looks pretty good. I'm on ebay and there is one for £90 but it says it's run from a new database and not the old Talex database? Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Edited by wiffmaster on Wednesday 8th December 19:20
What was wrong with that database? Does your £40 run from the old database or the new one.
Just want to work out if its worth the extra that you paid?
I also like the rearview mirror bracket so that its hidden from view.
Any of the above could be on Nick Caves shopping list. I doubt he will forget where this one is in a hurry. Note great over the top Daily mail captions, last one is a corker!
What speed camera?
What speed camera?
Diablos-666 said:
wiffmaster said:
I doubt many people will have heard of these, but the Novus GPS Rider is absolutely brilliant.
Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Been having a gander at this one, it looks pretty good. I'm on ebay and there is one for £90 but it says it's run from a new database and not the old Talex database? Lifetime updates are included and the database seems very comprehensive - I've had mine a couple of years and they normally release a couple of updates a week and I've yet to drive past one it doesn't detect. Tells you the limit, type of camera, and whether or not you're going too fast and are about to be caught.
Can work off battery (for about 8 hours) or 12v supply and can be mounted on a magnetic pad - no wires and no suckers on the windscreen. My Dad was so impressed by mine that he picked one up to replace his old Road Angel, which was a much pricer piece of kit.
You can pick them up online for around £80, but if you're lucky (like I was) your local Aldi might have one in stock for £40. I've bought about 15 on behalf of friends/family from Aldi, as it appears as though only a few of their stores carry them.
Edited by wiffmaster on Wednesday 8th December 19:20
What was wrong with that database? Does your £40 run from the old database or the new one.
Just want to work out if its worth the extra that you paid?
I also like the rearview mirror bracket so that its hidden from view.
This Beltronics has the best of both worlds - true radar & laser detection plus GPS locations: https://www.beltronics.com/store/gx-65.html . Never used it myself though, so can't offer an opinion.
The GPS-only devices have the advantage of being cheap. The disadvantage I found when I used one was that every location a mobile camera had ever been seen was loaded in the database...but of course the speed trap might actually only be there one day every six months...so you get a lot of false alerts. You also have to pay a subscription to keep the database up to date. They do have the benefit of alerting you nice and early though.
The true detectors have the advantage that they can pick up the speed traps in locations not yet loaded into the GPS database. There are also no on-going costs. But they are more expensive. The disadvantage is their ability to be useful can vary wildly - sometimes they won't detect the camera until you're right on top of it. Hardly ideal.
Hence why the detector + gps devices have started to come on the market - they're an attempt to offer the 'best of both worlds'.
Adam
Adam,
That is a good point. I didn't see the point in the laser detector device because surely a laser must be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
80% of speeding fines / convictions are caused by fixed camaras. So with this in mind i think the £90 jobbie is the best value.
I also only drive at weekends and my miles pa is probaby <5k.
Thanks
Cliff
That is a good point. I didn't see the point in the laser detector device because surely a laser must be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
80% of speeding fines / convictions are caused by fixed camaras. So with this in mind i think the £90 jobbie is the best value.
I also only drive at weekends and my miles pa is probaby <5k.
Thanks
Cliff
Diablos-666 said:
Adam,
be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
No, they're constantly sending out a nonsense signal which serves to jam the laser pointed at you. Then it beeps to tell you about the camera and deactivates itself.be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
The person operating the gun will initally get an error (due to the constant jamming signal), and then when they try again, they will get a reading because the jammer has deactivated itself. By this time you should have made sure you're within the speed limit. AFAIK that's how they work.
Diablos-666 said:
Been having a gander at this one, it looks pretty good. I'm on ebay and there is one for £90 but it says it's run from a new database and not the old Talex database?
What was wrong with that database? Does your £40 run from the old database or the new one.
Just want to work out if its worth the extra that you paid?
I also like the rearview mirror bracket so that its hidden from view.
Whichever one you buy (irrespective of whether or not it mentions 'Talex' on the box) will run from the same new database - this one here. I *think* that what happened was that they bought/licenced the Talex database for the earlier models, and then renamed it and removed any mention of Talex at a later date. All units now run off Novus' own database (the one I linked to) whatever they say on the box and however old they are. I have two of them - one mentions Talex on the box and the other doesn't - but both run off that same new database. So in other words, buy the cheapest one you can find as they're all identical.What was wrong with that database? Does your £40 run from the old database or the new one.
Just want to work out if its worth the extra that you paid?
I also like the rearview mirror bracket so that its hidden from view.
As the chap above mentioned, the negative thing about the GPS Rider is that it doesn't detect laser sites (though there's a selectable option to warn you about known 'hotspots' where the police often set up traps). Personally never viewed the lack of laser detection a problem, as I've always been of the view that by the time it's detected a speed gun and warned you about it, the police have already got their reading. Unless you have one of those fancy ones which blocks the police from getting a reading, but they tend to be silly money.
I'm very happy with our ones and doubt you'd be disappointed. Even at £200, it would represent decent value when you take into account the free updates for life.
Edited by wiffmaster on Thursday 9th December 16:52
Diablos-666 said:
Adam,
That is a good point. I didn't see the point in the laser detector device because surely a laser must be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
I'm no expert, but I think you're generally correct when talking about lasar. But because radar signals scatter, they're much easier to detect. Some of the detectors have been tested and shown to alert at distances over a mile (in optimal conditions), so they can have their uses.That is a good point. I didn't see the point in the laser detector device because surely a laser must be already pointing in your direction before it picks up by which time it's already too late.
There's LOADS of info. here - www.radartest.com
Adam
"alert from distances over a mile"
I'm sure that it had to be a pretty clear mile for it to register.
What abouts those little side roads, behind bushes / walls etc that they wait in.
I'll have a read of that link though. Thanks.
As for the comment about the detector jamming the radar. I doubt that they actually jam as that is illegal. The devised listed above are all legal.
We all read about the Porsche owner who got caught with that jamming device didn't we?
I'm sure that it had to be a pretty clear mile for it to register.
What abouts those little side roads, behind bushes / walls etc that they wait in.
I'll have a read of that link though. Thanks.
As for the comment about the detector jamming the radar. I doubt that they actually jam as that is illegal. The devised listed above are all legal.
We all read about the Porsche owner who got caught with that jamming device didn't we?
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