Road racing, Illegal?
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Now, i understand that racing on the highway is ilegal, for drivers at least.
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
deltaf said:
Now, i understand that racing on the highway is ilegal, for drivers at least.
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
Deltaf, I am surprised you have asked that questionas it is fairly obvious.
Cyclists in these situations weigh around about the 10 to 13 stone mark. They rarely travel at over 40mph. If they fall off, they ususally only hurt themslves or those in their immediate vicinity in the race.
Cars racing on the road are capable of huge speed and devastating consequences if they get it wrong.
That is why cyclists and Masochists do things like that on the road (London Marathon to illustrate the point)
D.
Cycle Racing (Time Trials) on the Highway is in fact strictly regulated by the Cyclists Union (or other named body that escapes me at the moment.)
They in fact have to give notification to the Authorities, numbers involved, route, time and date etc., who can then object to have cancelled/ modified.
So its not just an R's up head down jaunt.
Vehicle racing on the Highway strictly forbidden by law, unless you organise an F1. jobby round Brum when special dispensation can be obtained.
DVD
Cycle Racing (Time Trials) on the Highway is in fact strictly regulated by the Cyclists Union (or other named body that escapes me at the moment.)
They in fact have to give notification to the Authorities, numbers involved, route, time and date etc., who can then object to have cancelled/ modified.
So its not just an R's up head down jaunt.
Vehicle racing on the Highway strictly forbidden by law, unless you organise an F1. jobby round Brum when special dispensation can be obtained.
DVD
all I am going to say is that we get them all the time though here.
Total ignorant w4nkers, think they own the road, if your taking a strole (like people do on country lanes) they basically run you off the road, and if you are in a car, they expect you to pull over!
now I know why I need a bull bar on the front of my 4x4!
Total ignorant w4nkers, think they own the road, if your taking a strole (like people do on country lanes) they basically run you off the road, and if you are in a car, they expect you to pull over!
now I know why I need a bull bar on the front of my 4x4!
They also ride about 7 abreast and gett really narked when you want to overtake them.
Also, one of the reasons cars can't race on the road is because they exceed the speed limit. Well I've seen bikes going well over 30 mph downhill in a 30 zone. How come they are not nicked for speeding?
Its a load of bollo ks
Also, one of the reasons cars can't race on the road is because they exceed the speed limit. Well I've seen bikes going well over 30 mph downhill in a 30 zone. How come they are not nicked for speeding?
Its a load of bollo ks
They also ride about 7 abreast and gett really narked when you want to overtake them.
Also, one of the reasons cars can't race on the road is because they exceed the speed limit. Well I've seen bikes going well over 30 mph downhill in a 30 zone. How come they are not nicked for speeding?
Its a load of bollo ks
Also, one of the reasons cars can't race on the road is because they exceed the speed limit. Well I've seen bikes going well over 30 mph downhill in a 30 zone. How come they are not nicked for speeding?
Its a load of bollo ks
It's because you are individually timed, not against each other, daft I know.
As for speeding...... I've been apprehended for exceeding the speed limit down Guildford North Street. Think we clock 45mph down there on a good day. However you can't be done as pushbikes dont have speedos.
Mind you we had those little electronic ones with a max speed readout !!
Before anyone says bikes can't stop I had disc brakes all round.
As for speeding...... I've been apprehended for exceeding the speed limit down Guildford North Street. Think we clock 45mph down there on a good day. However you can't be done as pushbikes dont have speedos.
Mind you we had those little electronic ones with a max speed readout !!
Before anyone says bikes can't stop I had disc brakes all round.
scuffham said:
Before anyone says bikes can't stop I had disc brakes all round.
so?
you have naff all contact patch with the road = shit stopping distance (compaired to a car)
Contact patch over weight is what matters, would that be the same case with a motorbike then? which can outbrake a car massively eg 2g (except on a bend in the wet ok)
deltaf said:
Now, i understand that racing on the highway is ilegal, for drivers at least.
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
Erm, have you never heard of the RAC rally?
That's on public roads too.
The other points are valid, too. A cycle race is much less dangerous for those not involved. They also are controlled by the police, to make sure they are run safely.
scuffham said:
Total ignorant w4nkers, think they own the road, if your taking a strole (like people do on country lanes) they basically run you off the road, and if you are in a car, they expect you to pull over!
Apart from the antics of the racing cyclists, it's the marshals that get my goat. They appear to think they have the right to leap out in front of traffic and stop it to allow their cyclists out. This happened to me several times on the A556 in Cheshire.
cptsideways said:
As for speeding...... I've been apprehended for exceeding the speed limit down Guildford North Street. Think we clock 45mph down there on a good day.
cptsideways - try that down Guildford High Street!
Northernboy said:
Erm, have you never heard of the RAC rally?
That's on public roads too.
Northerboy - by definition, rallies are NOT "races". Unless the road is private or is closed by an Order in Parliament (eg. The Great Orme and Brighton Prom. in RACs of old), the timing of any timed road section must take the prevailing speed limits into account. The RAC Rally (as it was named) has no competitive stages over open public roads.
Streaky
streaky said:
As for speeding...... I've been apprehended for exceeding the speed limit down Guildford North Street. Think we clock 45mph down there on a good day.
cptsideways - try that down Guildford High Street!
I have I just never got caught
(early AM I hasten to add) wet cobbles cause slight technicalities with stopping for the new barrier though. my mate had a slight technicality with turning left by the Star though, I seem to recall he ended up in the pubs doorway after a night ride. It was rather amusing.
Northernboy said:
Now, i understand that racing on the highway is ilegal, for drivers at least.
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
Erm, have you never heard of the RAC rally?
That's on public roads too.
The other points are valid, too. A cycle race is much less dangerous for those not involved. They also are controlled by the police, to make sure they are run safely.
Yes ive heard of the rac rally, im talking about racing for "ordinary" folks.
Hmmm on my bike tax disc it says, for class of vehicle, "Bicycle" does this mean I can race it on the highway? streaky said:
Northernboy - by definition, rallies are NOT "races". Unless the road is private or is closed by an Order in Parliament (eg. The Great Orme and Brighton Prom. in RACs of old), the timing of any timed road section must take the prevailing speed limits into account. The RAC Rally (as it was named) has no competitive stages over open public roads.
Streaky
IIRC cycle races / time trials on open public roads come under a similar(ish) regime to road rallies with competitive sections. Motor Vehicles (Competition and Trials) Regulations 1969 refers.
However it is noted that road closures for cycle races seem to be more easily obtainable than those for motor sport.
The duration of the closure order is usually less than that for a rally but nevertheless.
cptsideways said:
cptsideways said:
Before anyone says bikes can't stop I had disc brakes all round.
so?
you have naff all contact patch with the road = shit stopping distance (compaired to a car)
Contact patch over weight is what matters, would that be the same case with a motorbike then? which can outbrake a car massively eg 2g (except on a bend in the wet ok)
sorry, that's total BS.
you seem to be ignoring all sorts of stuff, like COG of a push bike, (and motorbike for that matter)
no std road going bike can out-brake a simmilar performace road car, period
just try it, against something as mundane as a 106 or the like....
deltaf said:
Now, i understand that racing on the highway is ilegal, for drivers at least.
Why therefore are cycle races allowed on our roads?
Surely some of the idiots ive just seen need a good kicking for their behaviour.
Why is it that cyclists races are sanctioned on the roads but not for cars?
Because cycles don't have a numberplate, and are therefore exempt from all road law.
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