A few Questions

[verba1]

Thanks if anyone can help here.

What is the exact name of the 3 litre ford engine in a noble ?

If you change the exhaust ,intercooler, fuel pump and get a remap on a 3 litre, i understand you can get to around 400 bhp. Do you have to strengthen the gear box or other engine parts with 400 bhp or will it run ok ?

Cheers

Stefano

[Gadgeroonie]

the engine is called a duratec

the basic design of engine is used in :

Jaguar
Mazda
Ford Mondeo
Ford SUV

you can tune a 3.0 to about 400 bhp - but you need to make sure if you have the 5 speed box it is uprated and fitted with a quaife ATB

[verba1]

Gadgeroonie said:

the engine is called a duratec

the basic design of engine is used in :

Jaguar
Mazda
Ford Mondeo
Ford SUV

you can tune a 3.0 to about 400 bhp - but you need to make sure if you have the 5 speed box it is uprated and fitted with a quaife ATB

Thanks Gadgeroonie

mine is stock 6 speed 3R with the lsd, what do you have to do if you want to go over 400 bhp or is it endless ?

stefano

[mgbond]

Just so you are not disapointed, I wouldn't expect 400bhp from remap and exhaust/IC I think 390 is the most I have herd of from just thouse mods.

Bondy

[TuxMan]

Hi Stefano , the std gearbox will be ok with 390/400 bhp just be a bit sympathetic with it :-)
to get higher you need to do Turbo's and valve springs but its a good step forward over std :-)

[funkybmx1]

I think I might of needed 0.5 actuators for my turbos for 400 bhp. But could be wrong

[mgbond]

funkybmx1 said:

I think I might of needed 0.5 actuators for my turbos for 400 bhp. But could be wrong

If i'm right I don't think that matters, 0.5 actuators just means they boost to 0.5 bar without any boost control. most of the big boys use 0.7 I think but again I'm not sure it matters if the ECU is doing all the control?

Bondy

[Metalman]

TuxMan said:

Hi Stefano , the std gearbox will be ok with 390/400 bhp just be a bit sympathetic with it :-)
to get higher you need to do Turbo's and valve springs but its a good step forward over std :-)

So if you want to go more than 400BHP I guess you need to strengthen the gearbox and uprate the clutch? Just interested as I'm looking at doing mine next year.

[mgbond]

Metalman said:

TuxMan said:

Hi Stefano , the std gearbox will be ok with 390/400 bhp just be a bit sympathetic with it :-)
to get higher you need to do Turbo's and valve springs but its a good step forward over std :-)

So if you want to go more than 400BHP I guess you need to strengthen the gearbox and uprate the clutch? Just interested as I'm looking at doing mine next year.

Valve spring are worth doing also. If you take your engine out to do this rather than cutting the bar then it may well be worth changing pistons also.

[NickyTwoHats]

gearboxman for shot peening was sufficient in mine

[daddysumo]

Most seem to stop at 420 lbft of torque, which is enough for the standard 6 speed drive train.

[TuxMan]

if you are going to uprate valve springs ect my as well put in bigger injectors do the box and clutch them aim for 500bhp !!!!

[Metalman]

mgbond said:

Metalman said:

TuxMan said:

Hi Stefano , the std gearbox will be ok with 390/400 bhp just be a bit sympathetic with it :-)
to get higher you need to do Turbo's and valve springs but its a good step forward over std :-)

So if you want to go more than 400BHP I guess you need to strengthen the gearbox and uprate the clutch? Just interested as I'm looking at doing mine next year.

Valve spring are worth doing also. If you take your engine out to do this rather than cutting the bar then it may well be worth changing pistons also.

I would take out the engine and box to be honest, i had a good chat to andy when i bought his IC and exhaust and I would agree that new pistons sound like a good idea.

[Metalman]

TuxMan said:

if you are going to uprate valve springs ect my as well put in bigger injectors do the box and clutch them aim for 500bhp !!!!

I would be aiming for 500, after seeing steves and grants cars on the rollers i've been dreaming of getting my car up to that spec, they just sounded awesome! Wouldn't mind a passenger ride at some point?

[TuxMan]

nobody nows the limit of the cast pistons but there are a few of us running 500 bhp through them with no issues !!! and those engines have had quite a bit of stick .

[Metalman]

Well, if you guys are running 500bhp on standard pistons with no problems then maybe i'll leave them in, they're not the cheapest of things after all! (Although cheaper than a re-build if one does break)

[TuxMan]

Metalman said:

Well, if you guys are running 500bhp on standard pistons with no problems then maybe i'll leave them in, they're not the cheapest of things after all! (Although cheaper than a re-build if one does break)

There is no doubt upgrading to forged pistons is a good idea in the long run but so far the cast pistons have coped pretty well , will head into next year with cast pistons although i have forged ones in the cupboard ready for rebuild next winter , the reason i have not done the change this year is because my engine is running so well as it is with very little oil use it seems to be a bit of a shame to pull it all to bits !!! and there is always so much else to do !!!

[jamescmr2]

Most of you know what i am doing to my car (valve springs etc). i have not upgraded the injectors. what do you think the standard ones limits are?

cheers

James

[funkybmx1]

TuxMan said:

nobody nows the limit of the cast pistons but there are a few of us running 500 bhp through them with no issues !!! and those engines have had quite a bit of stick .

My one ain't

[TuxMan]

jamescmr2 said:

Most of you know what i am doing to my car (valve springs etc). i have not upgraded the injectors. what do you think the standard ones limits are?

cheers

James

depends if you can up your fuel pressure , mine topped out at 460 with 5 bar fuel pressue ,std injectors with std fuel pressue are good for 420 ish .