German 'millionaire' shoots dead 16-year-old burglar
German 'millionaire' shoots dead 16-year-old burglar
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stitched

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A 77-year-old German man identified in press reports as a millionaire shot dead a 16-year-old youth after he and a masked gang of four others broke into the man's villa, police said on Tuesday.

The man, named by the Bild daily as industrialist Ernst B., was checking on his dog in his garden in Sittensen near Hamburg in northern Germany late on Monday when the gang approached him and allegedly forced him into his house.

Once inside, the five demanded money, stole the pensioner's wallet and tried to open a safe on an upper floor, setting off an alarm in the process, police charged.
a keen hunter and gun owner, managed to grab a pistol and shoot one of the gang. The 16-year-old, who was known to the police and was of Albanian origin, died on the house's terrace as the others fled, police said.

It was unclear whether the 77-year-old would face legal action. Authorities said the other members of the gang escaped despite a major police operation including sniffer dogs and a helicopter.


Medal required.
The odd thing is this was on the news channels earlier but has now been pulled
confused

Edited by stitched on Wednesday 15th December 17:39

Deva Link

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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So the German police are crap too.

And Germany is paralysed by snow at the moment.

stitched

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Point is the German police might not even charge the old chap.
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.

Pesty

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Now all they need to do is catch and deport the others back to Albania and its a win win story smile

Pints

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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stitched said:
Point is the German police might not even charge the old chap.
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
Perhaps that's why they've pulled the story; he's been let off and that just wouldn't do over here.

Deva Link

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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stitched said:
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No he wouldn't.

Mr_annie_vxr

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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stitched said:
Point is the German police might not even charge the old chap.
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No. He may not get charged here either.

Before you start banging on about the other cases they always involve the person no longer being in danger and either chasing the offender down and using excessive force. Or in tony martins case shooting someone in the back.

I've been to lots of incidents where members of the public have used a lot of force and never once been prosecuted.




stitched

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Pesty said:
Now all they need to do is catch and deport the others back to Albaniaput them back in his front garden and give him back the gun and its a win win story smile
EFA
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stitched

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Deva Link said:
stitched said:
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No he wouldn't.
Well just being pedantic then yes he would, he used a handgun and we are not considered grown up enough in this country to have those.
smile

Deva Link

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stitched said:
Deva Link said:
stitched said:
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No he wouldn't.
Well just being pedantic then yes he would, he used a handgun and we are not considered grown up enough in this country to have those.
smile
That's true I suppose - he'd get 5yrs just for having the gun.

Someone killed a burglar with a kitchen knife not long ago and wasn't charged.

stitched

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Deva Link said:
stitched said:
Deva Link said:
stitched said:
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No he wouldn't.
Well just being pedantic then yes he would, he used a handgun and we are not considered grown up enough in this country to have those.
smile
That's true I suppose - he'd get 5yrs just for having the gun.

Someone killed a burglar with a kitchen knife not long ago and wasn't charged.
Actually I'm getting sidetracked.
I was more curious why the story doesn't appear in any news reports, like I said it was on sky at some point in the day but now no trace.
Normally the news sites store stories they have run indefinitely?

Globs

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Good for him.
I would have been tempted to use the breadknife..

Saddle bum

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Hypothetically, in this country, if he were charged and tried, it would be difficult if not impossible to find a jury that would convict him.

SystemParanoia

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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link?

Mr_B

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273 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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In this country there would be paranoia that firstly he was 16, but second he was foreign.

g3org3y

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Winner. Nice work.

thinfourth2

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
stitched said:
Point is the German police might not even charge the old chap.
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No. He may not get charged here either.

Before you start banging on about the other cases they always involve the person no longer being in danger and either chasing the offender down and using excessive force. Or in tony martins case shooting someone in the back.
I have no respect or sympathy for Tony Martin

He was a farmer

He missed the other st and didn't dispose of the dead sts body

Haighermeister

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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[quote=thinfourth2 didn't dispose of the dead sts body
[/quote]

It's what slurry pits are made for IMO.


RE: Old geezer shooting 16 year old. Good job biggrin

birdcage

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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If a burglar and young serial pikey breaks into your house in the UK please make sure you shoot him with a conventional weapon in the chest.


A pump action shotgun in the back whilst he is running away won't do smile

Globs

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
stitched said:
Point is the German police might not even charge the old chap.
Whereas over here he'd be crucified.
No. He may not get charged here either.

Before you start banging on about the other cases they always involve the person no longer being in danger and either chasing the offender down and using excessive force. Or in tony martins case shooting someone in the back.
I have no respect or sympathy for Tony Martin

He was a farmer

He missed the other st and didn't dispose of the dead sts body
Actually st#1 ran off leaving st#2 to die, so is just as culpable.
The case really brought home the pathetic CPS when a man is prosecuted for defending his own home. Pathetic to see the courts siding with the criminals. Again.

Now to defend our homes we'll just have to saw their balls off with a breadknife, not being allowed guns and all that. In Texas he would have been treated like the hero he was.