astra 1.9cdti 150bhp
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is this car reliable, i hear how great it is driving wise, but it seems the internet thinks it is incredibly unreliable at low mileage
ive seen a 2007 one with 30000 on the clock and full service history, it doesent have the bodykit on it so looks a bit plain
but its the only car between 7000-8000 that is diesel, quick to 60 and economic, most of the diesels take 11 seconds, this one takes 8
the only other cars ive seen is a renault megane 2.0dci with 150bhp
and a honda civic 2006 2.2itcdi
these are just as quick but more expensive, and ill be getting this car on finance over 5 years so would like something that is newer
ive seen a 2007 one with 30000 on the clock and full service history, it doesent have the bodykit on it so looks a bit plain
but its the only car between 7000-8000 that is diesel, quick to 60 and economic, most of the diesels take 11 seconds, this one takes 8the only other cars ive seen is a renault megane 2.0dci with 150bhp
and a honda civic 2006 2.2itcdi
these are just as quick but more expensive, and ill be getting this car on finance over 5 years so would like something that is newer
I have a 1.7 CDTi Corsa, and the engine seems to be the most reliable thing about it - the diesel VX's seem to be very reliable, economical and powerful enough. However, the rest of it may fail or be a bit flimsy, but personally I think the newer Vauxhalls are screwed together reasonably, compared to older ones anyway!
Edited by Burny16v on Wednesday 15th December 20:38
Burny16v said:
I have a 1.7 CDTi Corsa, and the engine seems to be the most reliable thing about it - the diesel VX's seem to be very reliable, economical and powerful enough. However, the rest of it may fail or be a bit flimsy, but personally I think the newer Vauxhalls are plenty reliable.
the 1.3 and 1.7cdtis are very reliable, the 1.9's appear to be a different storySTW2010 said:
It's a Vauxhall, so I seriously doubt that it's either good to drive or reliable. They are cheap for a reason
Wrong. Whilst no Focus in either chassis or steering feel, or Golf in in interior quality standards, the engine is better than the many of it's competitor's equivalent, and despite the torsion rear beam suspension it was considered, and by experience proved to be, a lot of fun and very capable. Check suspension parts in terms of reliability but the rest should be fine.
Exterior design remains fresh IMO, interior less so with some questionable material choices.
They're cheap cos of media led pub bores like you (and a not so decent past that proves that opinion mostly right)....it will take a while for their reputation to improve....the sooner we lose the type/generation who judge cars by their badge and history and less by the actualcar in front of them the better.
I had one as a rental for about a month. The engines are pretty strong and they grip and ride reasonably well but I wouldn't call it fun and the gearbox is rather slow. I can understand the enthusiasm to buy a car you can't really afford and the concept of paying £Xper month now doesn't seem such a chore but thats because its new to you and probably better then a car thats gone before BUT how will you feel in 4 years still paying £Xper month. On a 5 year finance deal remember that you'll be upside down on the finance for the first 3 years so won't be able to get out of it easily.
Edited by Eddie the Ead on Wednesday 15th December 20:52
I had one, between 25,000 and 75,000 miles it needed (amongst other things):
- a new inlet manifold
- 3 egr valves
- a dual mass flywheel
Luckily all of this happened within warranty, it would have been VERY expensive if I'd had to pay.
I think most modern diesels suffer the same problems though, at least it doesn't have a dpf!
- a new inlet manifold
- 3 egr valves
- a dual mass flywheel
Luckily all of this happened within warranty, it would have been VERY expensive if I'd had to pay.
I think most modern diesels suffer the same problems though, at least it doesn't have a dpf!
[quote=neil_w]I had one, between 25,000 and 75,000 miles it needed (amongst other things):
- a new inlet manifold
- 3 egr valves
- a dual mass flywheel
Luckily all of this happened within warranty, it would have been VERY expensive if I'd had to pay.
I think most modern diesels suffer the same problems though, at least it doesn't have a dpf! [/quote
yeh the inlet manifold was mentioned, DMF i expect that, and yeh the egr valves get clogged but couldent i clean it with spray every so many miles or give the engine a good warm up on the motorway to clear it out?
what mileage did all this need doing at?
- a new inlet manifold
- 3 egr valves
- a dual mass flywheel
Luckily all of this happened within warranty, it would have been VERY expensive if I'd had to pay.
I think most modern diesels suffer the same problems though, at least it doesn't have a dpf! [/quote
yeh the inlet manifold was mentioned, DMF i expect that, and yeh the egr valves get clogged but couldent i clean it with spray every so many miles or give the engine a good warm up on the motorway to clear it out?
what mileage did all this need doing at?
Agoogy said:
STW2010 said:
It's a Vauxhall, so I seriously doubt that it's either good to drive or reliable. They are cheap for a reason
Wrong. Whilst no Focus in either chassis or steering feel, or Golf in in interior quality standards, the engine is better than the many of it's competitor's equivalent, and despite the torsion rear beam suspension it was considered, and by experience proved to be, a lot of fun and very capable. Check suspension parts in terms of reliability but the rest should be fine.
Exterior design remains fresh IMO, interior less so with some questionable material choices.
They're cheap cos of media led pub bores like you (and a not so decent past that proves that opinion mostly right)....it will take a while for their reputation to improve....the sooner we lose the type/generation who judge cars by their badge and history and less by the actualcar in front of them the better.
The last one I owned (aside from the Corsa we still have) was a disaster. Just working under the bonnet gives clues on the quality of the parts used.
So, this isn't a media-led pub-knowledge person. I have experienced Vauxhall first hand- either through the ones I've owned, or the ones I get as the occassional hire car through work. From my job I have had the diesel versions, and I cannot see much positive about them except the initial cost to buy. The drive was ok, but not great- that is how I would describe every single Vauxhall I've driven.
On the topic of costs to buy, they are cheap to buy from new, and on paper you seem to be getting a good deal. But it's the used values which are the true bargains- which is bad bad news if you buy a reasonably new one. The depreciation is abysmal.
Disclaimer- I haven't driven a VX220 or a Monaro. I hear these are pretty damn good!
STW2010 said:
jamie128 said:
i have to do 5 years, cant afford nothing else and i need a car
Could you not get a smaller amount on finance and go for a cheaper, perhaps older, car?If you're careful with what you buy, a £3-4k car could last you a few years.
I have just purchased a 56 plate 3 door with the X pack bodykit.
Good points so far
It drives well and the engine is responsive with the sport button on.
It's quiter inside than our A3 with little road noise inside the cabin.
It looks great IMO.
Bad ponts
Engine sounds a bit tractory for my liking.
The seats are uncomfortable as the lumber support is too high, tbh the whole driving position is'nt great
The rear visability is rubbish
Gears are notchy
Speakers are crap
It's thirsty
Plans
Eibach springs to give it a better stance
Decat & Milltek system with a remap which will give around 200bhp which I can't wait for.
My problem is I have had vags for the last 3 years and it's taking a bit of getting used too.
Good points so far
It drives well and the engine is responsive with the sport button on.
It's quiter inside than our A3 with little road noise inside the cabin.
It looks great IMO.
Bad ponts
Engine sounds a bit tractory for my liking.
The seats are uncomfortable as the lumber support is too high, tbh the whole driving position is'nt great
The rear visability is rubbish
Gears are notchy
Speakers are crap
It's thirsty
Plans
Eibach springs to give it a better stance
Decat & Milltek system with a remap which will give around 200bhp which I can't wait for.
My problem is I have had vags for the last 3 years and it's taking a bit of getting used too.
Agoogy said:
They're cheap cos of media led pub bores like you (and a not so decent past that proves that opinion mostly right)....it will take a while for their reputation to improve....the sooner we lose the type/generation who judge cars by their badge and history and less by the actualcar in front of them the better.
Mate of mine is a senior techy at Lookers. Reckons the 1.9 cdti is s
te.I like Vauxhalls but the relibility issues surrounding the 1.9 are well known. It is a FIAT afterall isn't it?
Isn't the 1.7TDI an Isuzu? I know the 3.0 v6 diesel is... That one is corker!
jamie128 said:
STW2010 said:
jamie128 said:
i have to do 5 years, cant afford nothing else and i need a car
Could you not get a smaller amount on finance and go for a cheaper, perhaps older, car?If you're careful with what you buy, a £3-4k car could last you a few years.
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