Paradigm Seismic 110
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Doesn't look as 'pretty' or lifesytle, but you'll get more depth out of one of these for less than 1/2 the price:
http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-df...
Easier to disguise as a small (!) table like I've done with mine by putting a lamp on it.
http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-df...
Easier to disguise as a small (!) table like I've done with mine by putting a lamp on it.
Digger said:
If I had more space a Monolith would have been on the shortlist, but an SVS PCU13 would probably have won the day. Living in a shoebox flat I am looking for a performer to outperform my already dinky SVS SB12+. Demoing the little Seismic tomorrow. Should be interesting.
Yes, but have you seen the price of SVS stuff these days? They seem to have bumped up quite a bit as I was tempted to get an SB12+ myself but they look too much like a big speaker rather than a 'table'. I even searched for a used downfiring older SVS 'plus2' and when one came up, I'd just spent a fortune doing up our kitchen so had to leave it...TBH though if you live in a flat maybe even the Seismic might be a bit OTT unless you have very considerate neighbours.
My neighbours are quite often away for days at a time so no major issues there and occasionally I've gone near reference level without any repercussions. I'm just after THE best boom : size ratio for a small flat and I've yet to see a design that may well fit my needs as well as this little Paradigm. . . hopefully.
Don't know if you've seen this review (haven't read it myself, just saw it while looking for something else and remembered this thread):
http://www.avforums.com/forums/hardware-reviews/13...
Also might be of interest, I'm thinking of getting one of these as I have a 50Hz peak in my room and a another between 22 and 28Hz (measured with a calibrated SPL meter). It seems to be pretty well thought of and much easier than using a BFD or similar. EQ'ing bass is pretty important according to many on here:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/subwoofers-tactile-...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/hardware-reviews/13...
Also might be of interest, I'm thinking of getting one of these as I have a 50Hz peak in my room and a another between 22 and 28Hz (measured with a calibrated SPL meter). It seems to be pretty well thought of and much easier than using a BFD or similar. EQ'ing bass is pretty important according to many on here:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/subwoofers-tactile-...
Edited by OldSkoolRS on Friday 17th December 23:13
Having played with a lot of subs (and some very nice systems in the 10's of thousands reigion), I can wholeheartedly say the best thing any sub can have is a decent EQ - whether thats built into the box, or as an external EQ.
Even if you get a "perfect" sub, the second you put it into a room, it becomes imperfect. Since most people need to put the sub in a location that is dictated by cosmitics, and most rooms have assymetric wall construction, the end result in the listening position can be lumpy as hell - EQ's fix that massively.
Having used EQ subs for about 7 years now, I'd not go back to one that didn't have one. Oh, and besfore the beards arrive, my subs are movie only.
Even if you get a "perfect" sub, the second you put it into a room, it becomes imperfect. Since most people need to put the sub in a location that is dictated by cosmitics, and most rooms have assymetric wall construction, the end result in the listening position can be lumpy as hell - EQ's fix that massively.
Having used EQ subs for about 7 years now, I'd not go back to one that didn't have one. Oh, and besfore the beards arrive, my subs are movie only.
OldSkoolRS said:
Digger said:
If I had more space a Monolith would have been on the shortlist, but an SVS PCU13 would probably have won the day. Living in a shoebox flat I am looking for a performer to outperform my already dinky SVS SB12+. Demoing the little Seismic tomorrow. Should be interesting.
Yes, but have you seen the price of SVS stuff these days? They seem to have bumped up quite a bit as I was tempted to get an SB12+ myself but they look too much like a big speaker rather than a 'table'. I even searched for a used downfiring older SVS 'plus2' and when one came up, I'd just spent a fortune doing up our kitchen so had to leave it...TBH though if you live in a flat maybe even the Seismic might be a bit OTT unless you have very considerate neighbours.
We have this in store and it is quite a performer for a small box. It is a bit different in shape to the rest of the crowd but the long excursion on the drive unit really punches. On its own I would say it is a very good compact sub, we cleared out our Sunfire products for the Paradigm as they are offering more for the money.
Using the room eq ( as used throughout the range ) on the 110 takes it up another couple of notches. The sound is fast and tight as well as surprisingly deep.
Using the room eq ( as used throughout the range ) on the 110 takes it up another couple of notches. The sound is fast and tight as well as surprisingly deep.
The sub is quick and tight so it will do a good job with movies and music - especially when calibrated. Best thing is to audition if possible to see how it works in your system, this is much more important with music. There is a room plot of our demo room showing how the correction has worked: http://www.thehomecinemacentre.co.uk/index.php/spe... . Scroll down and select the first image , it will then appear as the main image.
Nick
Nick
Edited by WZC1 on Saturday 18th December 12:15
Had a demo of the little box on Saturday afternoon and I am definitely going to get one. It really is quite astonishing what it can do for its size, especially as I listened to it in a room greater than twice the size of my Living Room!
More importantly it was an excellent performer with music, keeping in time and as it had been eq'd using the PBK there was no hint of boom - nice and tight!! Will get one in the new year because as far as I can deduce there really is nothing else to match it for the size, albeit for a certain price!
More importantly it was an excellent performer with music, keeping in time and as it had been eq'd using the PBK there was no hint of boom - nice and tight!! Will get one in the new year because as far as I can deduce there really is nothing else to match it for the size, albeit for a certain price!
Digger said:
WZC1 said:
Glad you managed to hear the sub it is a cracking unit for the money. Did the dealer tempt you with a Sub1?
Nick
Nope but I am starting to take an interest in it!!Nick
Nick
Digger said:
Nick, according to a review I read the price has launched right up to £5k. Is that true? Shame.
Oh and Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas. Yes that is true about the price, it went up a while ago. It is still a lot of performance for the money though, we only have the mighty KEF 209 and SUB2 that can outperform it.Oh and Merry Christmas.
If you can consider Cherry rather than black I know of a bargain....
Nick
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