Should i go for a 3.5v8 or a 300tdi 90?
Should i go for a 3.5v8 or a 300tdi 90?
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welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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I have 2 90's to buy tomorrow

i cant decide on which one!

both are 1987 with all the off road gear

the 300tdi is a hard top with side windows and no winch

the v8 is also a hard top no windows and winch.

tdi is g4 orange and 50 miles away

v8 is army camo and 1 mile away

so what you think lads?

Its purely a boys toy, will not be used for commuting etc so running costs dont matter!


mat13

1,977 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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When your offroading do you like deep water? The 300 loves it the v8 hates it. Also do you have much expirience with carbs, the ones on the v8 will require fettling regulary. The v8 isn't that much more powerfull than the 300 either, but in a landrover of that age the 300tdi will have been retro fitted so it's worth checking that the conversions been done properly. And the 300tdi can be tuned pretty easily, have a look at the allisport website.

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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I dont have much experience of v8's but I can learn! and I wont be going into mega deep water, I like to keep the seats dry! smile so thats ok!

I used to own 3 different tdi's and td5's so maybe i should try a v8 and pop my petrol cherry!

mat13

1,977 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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In that case go for it, if you end up buying it give me a pm, I've tuned a few rover v8s in landys, they can be made to go like stink.

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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mat13 said:
In that case go for it, if you end up buying it give me a pm, I've tuned a few rover v8s in landys, they can be made to go like stink.
that would be great cheers, what landy do you have?

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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The winchy bit is largely irrelevant as you "should" consider replacing the cable and other crucial bits anyway.
Neither colour on offer would float my boat....G4 orange is just yukky, and camouflage always has a hint of Fast Show "It's gripped!" about it. If I had to choose it'd be the Tango truck.
Engine wise, if you can afford the horrific running costs, go for the V8.
And distance shouldn't be a player. If it's the right car, you'll travel.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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My choice would be the G4 painted 300.
Shame you can't mix and match.
An G4 coloured winched V8 sounds good.

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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Can always LPG the v8 if it gets too horrific but it is a weekend toy so thats fine!

And I can always paint it a different colour!

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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Jem0911 said:
A G4 coloured winched V8 sounds good.
Precisely my thought when I first read the post.

100SRV

2,328 posts

266 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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mat13 said:
When your offroading do you like deep water? The 300 loves it the v8 hates it. Also do you have much expirience with carbs, the ones on the v8 will require fettling regulary. The v8 isn't that much more powerfull than the 300 either, but in a landrover of that age the 300tdi will have been retro fitted so it's worth checking that the conversions been done properly. And the 300tdi can be tuned pretty easily, have a look at the allisport website.
How often is regularly? I have SU's on my Bowler and generally check the settings once a year during a service (12,000 miles P.A.) Other than that all they need is a top up with oil in the dashpots which can be checked when you check the other fluids...once set up they are trouble free.

welshsurferdude

Original Poster:

366 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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100SRV said:
mat13 said:
When your offroading do you like deep water? The 300 loves it the v8 hates it. Also do you have much expirience with carbs, the ones on the v8 will require fettling regulary. The v8 isn't that much more powerfull than the 300 either, but in a landrover of that age the 300tdi will have been retro fitted so it's worth checking that the conversions been done properly. And the 300tdi can be tuned pretty easily, have a look at the allisport website.
How often is regularly? I have SU's on my Bowler and generally check the settings once a year during a service (12,000 miles P.A.) Other than that all they need is a top up with oil in the dashpots which can be checked when you check the other fluids...once set up they are trouble free.
that does sound good!
I have done the deal on the camo V8 so I am collecting it in the morning! far too excited, snow is forcast too so good timing! Its SORNed so Ill have to tax it soon as insurance docs come through!

Lefty

19,891 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Good choice! As a toy the v8 is perfect imho.

And if you do decide to get into offroading and wading, you just need a bit more prep work (and a metric stload of wd40!) Plenty of guys use v8's for RTV trials with no problem.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Pictures in the White stuff please.

Lefty

19,891 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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I'm interested to know what gearbox is behind the v8?

I've just been through the fiddly fking job of putting an r380/LT230 in my v8. Proper arse of a job, fannying about with props and mounts. grumpy

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-90-V8-off-roader-...

its the one in the link, a pretty good buy for 2800 i think! solid panels, bulkhead,doors and a clean chassis. I viewed it saturday and did the deal today, so collecting it in the morning and handing over the cash.

I will take some pics of it in the snow via my diversion home

The gearbox is a auto, no idea what make but i presume the engine and box are out of a rangie as thats what usually happens! It used to be a farmers 2.5na diesel in blue at some point in its life before morphing into this monster!


Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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?£1900 in the listing?
Still. Looks awsome.

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Jem0911 said:
?£1900 in the listing?
Still. Looks awsome.
He ended early for me as the seller happened to be a friend of a few friends of mine so bought it off him for 2800 which seems a bargain for what it is and all the off road gear on it! nothing anywhere near that spec for that price in the country at the moment!

does have a couple issues like the carbs needing a service due to overfuelling or something, spotlights reconnected and a oil leak fixed, but apart from that is very solid, rust free and straight for its age!


One thing ive noticed, its got a auto box with the usual auto stick and it has a little lever next to it for Low and High, how do i engage the diff lock then? as i could have done with locked diffs earlier due to all the power going to one wheel with the least resistance on a steep ice and snow covered hillside lane towing a van up,




Lefty

19,891 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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I'm not really familiar with the range rover a_to box, does it still use lt230 transfer box? If so, you should be able to move the transfer lever in the x-axis (as in side-to-side). With the stick on the left you should be able to still select low and high but with the centre diff locked.

Unless they've been retrofitted, you won't have diff locks.

Air lockers will, obviously, need a compressor and will be switched from the cab. Alternatively, they could have electric lockers (also switched) or something like the detroit trutrak which is like a torsen diff locker iirc.

welshsurferdude

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366 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Im not sure what gearbox it is but it does look range rover vintage!
The high low lever is on the right side of the auto box. and no sign of diffs, so its got none fitted or is it a visious coupling?

I think diffs operated by a switch might be the way to go!

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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welshsurferdude said:
Nothing anywhere near that spec for that price in the country at the moment!

The gearbox is a auto, no idea what make but i presume the engine and box are out of a rangie as thats what usually happens!.....

Does have a couple issues like the carbs needing a service due to overfuelling or something, spotlights reconnected and a oil leak fixed...

How do i engage the diff lock then?
And you've handed over money for this?