Any insurance assesors care to offer an opinion,
Any insurance assesors care to offer an opinion,
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R60EST

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2,364 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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I've had my first prang in 26 yrs of driving , I hit a parked car at 10 - 15 mph due to having absolutely zero grip /brakes /steering on black ice. It is going through as an insurance claim . My car is a Dec 2003 legacy Estate , worth realistically £4000 tops , I have a £500 total excess

The damage to my car at a glance isn't too bad , it's still drivable , lost no fluids. The visual damage is a dented bonnet cracked bumper and grille. Internally the A/C has become very noisy, sounds as if a fan / motor is rubbing against it's housing. The strengthener behind the bumper will have taken a batering too. Other than that it seems fine.

I am insured with Swiftcover ( if that has any bearing ) do you think they will write it off or go for a repair. I'm not really bothered either way but they are not collecting it until 5th Jan and if it's likely to be written off I'd like to start looking for it's replacement ASAP.

Terrible pic attached , might just show the damage


jamiebae

6,245 posts

227 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Looks like an easy repair for about £2k to me, you'd be very unlucky for that to be written off.

davepoth

29,395 posts

215 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Bumper and bonnet, given they both unbolt for a respray, I'd be annoyed if the ripoff body shop the insurers use charge that much.

Cotty

41,401 posts

300 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Depends who they get to do the job. If the costs of parts, labour, paint etc outweigh the value of the car they will write it off.

Big Rod

6,252 posts

232 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Had a similar thing on my Frontera a couple of years ago and the prices/values were around the same.

£2500 to fix it and they did. (I'd actually hoped they'd write it off and I'd be able to buy it back then jump up and down on the bonnet till it was sort'a straight and use it like that, but no such luck.)

R60EST

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2,364 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Their approved repairer ( Lookers - Speke ) have told me that in their experience Swiftcover tend to write a car off if the repairs are >= 50% of the car's value . I think it makes it a borderline case so, without wishing to appear rude , I'd really appreciate the opinion of someone qualified to comment rather than speculation.

Edited by R60EST on Monday 20th December 20:19

paoloh

8,617 posts

220 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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I think it's a write off.

All new panels, whole new bumper assembly.

Strip, fitting and painting, I doubt you'd get any change from £3k

andy43

11,729 posts

270 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Without opening the bonnet and looking underneath the car, a qualified assessor may struggle. One pic ain't enough. Lights look undamaged - that'll help smile

edo

16,699 posts

281 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Dont forget to factor in the hire car. Bodyshops are very busy, so could be a while before it gets done. Insurance can get £2k+ for salvage, give you £4k and they are only £2k down, or a £2.5k repair plus a few weeks hire car....

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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R60EST said:
Their approved repairer ( Lookers - Speke ) have told me that in their experience Swiftcover tend to write a car off if the repairs are >= 50% of the car's value . I think it makes it a borderline case so, without wishing to appear rude , I'd really appreciate the opinion of someone qualified to comment rather than speculation.
If you want to have it repaired and not written off, make sure they spend as little as possible on other none repair costs, as I'm sure your already aware, things like "like for like" hire cars will zoom through £2k in charges in a matter of weeks.

Other option is, if written off, to buy it back and fix it yourself using second hand bits smile

AnotherClarkey

3,690 posts

205 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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paoloh said:
I think it's a write off.

All new panels, whole new bumper assembly.

Strip, fitting and painting, I doubt you'd get any change from £3k
You may well be right but it is a pretty sad reflection of our 'disposable society'.

R60EST

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2,364 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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No courtesy car included in the cover. We have 3 other vehicles in the household so didn't opt for that in the policy.

I'm not a fan of the throw away society. I would like to be covered like for like , as in , it's a 7 yr old car with a few blemishes , I don't expect it to be 100% as it left the showroom when it returns. As long as the repairs are to a good standard , the AC is quiet again and there are no obvious blemishes in the new paint I'd be happy.

Swiftcover have a policy of not covering cat D vehicles , so if I opted to ' buy it back' I'd have to go elsewhere for insurance.

Just to add , I didn't plough head on into the parked car without reason ,it was 06.30 am , on a bend , adverse camber , black ice ( dec 6th 50+ cars did the same thing on the A580 that morning) and I was doing a slalom manoeuvre between 2 parked cars . I went around the first one on the left with ease but as I turned in to pass the one on the right my car didn't and just glided off to the right and...... bang

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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ahh the Thursday before last, plenty of other people did almost exactly the same thing that morning, including a young lady in a Ka who took out the rear quater of the car I was driving.

R60EST

Original Poster:

2,364 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
ahh the Thursday before last, plenty of other people did almost exactly the same thing that morning, including a young lady in a Ka who took out the rear quater of the car I was driving.
I can't tell you how pissed off I am . I've had a few near misses over the years , some of my own doing , some not , but that's what they've been MISSES as I've had the quick reflexes and common sense to avoid them . I can't believe I've thrown all that away to hit a parked car 200 yds from home

Edited by R60EST on Monday 20th December 20:47

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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R60EST said:
AndrewW-G said:
ahh the Thursday before last, plenty of other people did almost exactly the same thing that morning, including a young lady in a Ka who took out the rear quater of the car I was driving.
I can't tell you how pissed off I am . I've had a few near misses over the years , some of my own doing , some not , but that's what they've been MISSES as I've had the quick reflexes and common sense to avoid them . I can't believe I've thrown all that away to hit a parked car 200 yds from home
Don’t beat yourself up over it, the ice was terrible and you certainly weren’t the only person to have a bump, it very nearly caught me out at 10mph two minutes before I was hit, only saved by a mixture of luck, small car with narrow tyres and slow speed . . . . . . . so slipy that the girl who crashed into me, got out of her car and promptly went base over apex as soon as her feet hit the pavement.

R60EST

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198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Base over Apex , so much more dignified than Arse over Tit . Do you live in deepest Cheshire ?smile

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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R60EST said:
Base over Apex , so much more dignified than Arse over Tit . Do you live in deepest Cheshire ?smile
One of the Wirral bods smile

Somnophore

1,364 posts

192 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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You're looking at about £2.5k repair there so I'd guess borderline total loss, you can always retain salvage and get it done somewhere cheaper. Some of the garages we use quote say 3k for a repair, looks like a total loss, and the clients come back with a cheaper garage at like £1250 I kid you not half the price
for the same job, big difference in labour rates.

R60EST

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2,364 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Somnophore said:
You're looking at about £2.5k repair there so I'd guess borderline total loss, you can always retain salvage and get it done somewhere cheaper. Some of the garages we use quote say 3k for a repair, looks like a total loss, and the clients come back with a cheaper garage at like £1250 I kid you not half the price
for the same job, big difference in labour rates.
If the prices stack up I'd like to buy it back. Cheapish repair using panels from a breakers yard and hope the AC can be fixed without spending £££ . I'd keep it as the winter / daily driver / Dog transporter and get rid of the Mundane-o for something sportier.

saaby93

32,038 posts

194 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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R60EST said:
If the prices stack up I'd like to buy it back. Cheapish repair using panels from a breakers yard and hope the AC can be fixed without spending £££ . I'd keep it as the winter / daily driver / Dog transporter and get rid of the Mundane-o for something sportier.
If youre going to do that why even put it through insurance?
Add up NCD loss extra premiums etc