Traffic warden was asking for it :)
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I was just in my local burger King (I know, I know)
and the place was empty except for a traffic warden sorting out the paperwork at the end of her shift or something.
As i approach the counter the manager looks at over at her and says
"You've been sitting there for twenty minutes (without actually buying anything), I'm gonna start charging you soon" And he wasn't smiling.
I look over at her and she gives it
and says "Some people just don't like traffic wardens" trying to get some support from me!
Well, this was my opportunity to explain to a traffic warden in no uncertain terms why i too thought they are a wart on the arse of society and then turned to the manager and going into 'Lock stock and two smoking barrels ' mode " I F*ckin hate Traffic wardens!!!"
It was fantastic to get the opportunity to do it when i had no car for her to make a note of
and the place was empty except for a traffic warden sorting out the paperwork at the end of her shift or something.
As i approach the counter the manager looks at over at her and says
"You've been sitting there for twenty minutes (without actually buying anything), I'm gonna start charging you soon" And he wasn't smiling.
I look over at her and she gives it
and says "Some people just don't like traffic wardens" trying to get some support from me! Well, this was my opportunity to explain to a traffic warden in no uncertain terms why i too thought they are a wart on the arse of society and then turned to the manager and going into 'Lock stock and two smoking barrels ' mode " I F*ckin hate Traffic wardens!!!"
It was fantastic to get the opportunity to do it when i had no car for her to make a note of
gone said:
I wonder how much costom he will lose now as the warden will pay particular attention to anyone parking illegally for "....just 2 minutes whilst I pick up my bun".
Oh and as for Hedders comment. Ever heard of Sect 5 Public order Act 1986? (arrestable too)
How can you arrest someone because they told someone else they F*cking hate traffic wardens"?
The last time i checked, it is still legal to give someone your opinion!
gone said:
I wonder how much costom he will lose now as the warden will pay particular attention to anyone parking illegally for "....just 2 minutes whilst I pick up my bun".
Oh and as for Hedders comment. Ever heard of Sect 5 Public order Act 1986? (arrestable too)
OI GONE NO! High horse, get off it!
hedders said:
I wonder how much costom he will lose now as the warden will pay particular attention to anyone parking illegally for "....just 2 minutes whilst I pick up my bun".
Oh and as for Hedders comment. Ever heard of Sect 5 Public order Act 1986? (arrestable too)
How can you arrest someone because they told someone else they F*cking hate traffic wardens"?
The last time i checked, it is still legal to give someone your opinion!
Not if you caused the operson to hear your opinion either Harassment, Alarm or Distress.
Lots of opinions sounded at the wrong moments see the speaker talking to a custody Sgt!
To invoke the power of arrest, a warning has to be given to stop the conduct. If the words or coduct continue, the power is invoked.
A single incident such as your opinion in the burger bar was a commission of the offence particularly if you used the word 'Fcuking'. At that point there is no power to arrest but a summons can be issued and if you refuse to give details of your name & address, then Sect 25 PACE power of arrest is available.
gone said:
Not if you caused the operson to hear your opinion either Harassment, Alarm or Distress.
Lots of opinions sounded at the wrong moments see the speaker talking to a custody Sgt!
To invoke the power of arrest, a warning has to be given to stop the conduct. If the words or coduct continue, the power is invoked.
A single incident such as your opinion in the burger bar was a commission of the offence particularly if you used the word 'Fcuking'. At that point there is no power to arrest but a summons can be issued and if you refuse to give details of your name & address, then Sect 25 PACE power of arrest is available.
Every cloud has a silver lining:
At this rate they're bound to get round to making crime a crime again.
gone said:
gone said:
I wonder how much costom he will lose now as the warden will pay particular attention to anyone parking illegally for "....just 2 minutes whilst I pick up my bun".
Oh and as for Hedders comment. Ever heard of Sect 5 Public order Act 1986? (arrestable too)
How can you arrest someone because they told someone else they F*cking hate traffic wardens"?
The last time i checked, it is still legal to give someone your opinion!
Not if you caused the operson to hear your opinion either Harassment, Alarm or Distress.
Lots of opinions sounded at the wrong moments see the speaker talking to a custody Sgt!
To invoke the power of arrest, a warning has to be given to stop the conduct. If the words or coduct continue, the power is invoked.
A single incident such as your opinion in the burger bar was a commission of the offence particularly if you used the word 'Fcuking'. At that point there is no power to arrest but a summons can be issued and if you refuse to give details of your name & address, then Sect 25 PACE power of arrest is available.
Come back MC all is forgiven........
So without me having to look it up, what you are telling me is that 'Sect 5 Public order Act 1986'
means that freedom of expression no longer exists?
Can this be done on video evidence too? So they can record what you say to someone and then play it back to someone who might be offended?
Are there specific laws on who you can and can not offend if they happen to over hear a conversation between freinds in a public place?
Can someone remind me why we just got rid of Saddam Hussein please, what exactly IS this freedom we are fighting for?
>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 20th April 01:40
means that freedom of expression no longer exists?
Can this be done on video evidence too? So they can record what you say to someone and then play it back to someone who might be offended?
Are there specific laws on who you can and can not offend if they happen to over hear a conversation between freinds in a public place?
Can someone remind me why we just got rid of Saddam Hussein please, what exactly IS this freedom we are fighting for?
>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 20th April 01:40
hedders said:
So without me having to look it up, what you are telling me is that 'Sect 5 Public order Act 1986'
means that freedom of expression no longer exists?
No. Of course not. Freedom of expression is a democratic right unless it interferes with the well being of another person. If your freedom of speech causes someone Harassment, Alarm or distress, then you are guilty of this offence.
I expect the traffic warden was/is well aware of public perception about her/his job. But to have someone say that they "Fcuking hate traffic wardens" obviously for the benefit of the traffic warden as the implication of the rest of your post states is edging on the commision of this offence.
hedders said:
Can this be done on video evidence too? So they can record what you say to someone and then play it back to someone who might be offended?
I don't see why not. After all speeders can be convicted on video evidence!
hedders said:
Are there specific laws on you can and can not offend if they happen to over hear a conversation between freinds in a public place?
Section 5 P.O.A. 1986 has several exemptions. You can commit this offence in public or private but there is a provision that where one or both of the persons is in that or another dwelling, the offence is not committed. (it is not intended that Police arrest spouses having a domestic under this act)
hedders said:
Can someone remind me why we just got rid of Saddam Hussein please, what exactly IS this freedom we are fighting for?
These laws are not archaic nor are they designed to stop freedom of speech. They are designed to make people think about how they address issues and others especially in public.
In your case it was neither appropriate for you to tell the manager in her presence that you "
ing hate traffic wardens" even if you do. Nor in the manner in which you did it. You could have told the manager this when she was out of your hearing but I get the impression that it was for her benefit more than the managers. You could even have given the impression that you did not like them but not in the manner you have stated. I bet you would not have said that about a black or disabled person if you had similar feelings about them! That is unless of course you were prepared to suffer at the hands of a crown court Judge (indictable offence is racially aggravated harassment [Sec5})
>> Edited by gone on Tuesday 20th April 01:42
gone said:
I bet you would not have said that about a black or disabled person if you had similar feelings about them!
I beg your pardon???
I am deeply disturbed and offended that you have linked being a traffic warden with having a physical problem such as being disabled!
Can i have you arrested? No, but i could probably force you to show up in court if i was determined...what a crazy world we live in eh?
gone said:
Can this be done on video evidence too? So they can record what you say to someone and then play it back to someone who might be offended?
I don't see why not. After all speeders can be convicted on video evidence!
Would not the person playing back the video be open to arrest for the S5 POA offence or a possible conspiracy charge? - Streaky
in hate Scameras, does that mean I can get arrested? 
gone said:
No. Of course not. Freedom of expression is a democratic right unless it interferes with the well being of another person. If your freedom of speech causes someone Harassment, Alarm or distress, then you are guilty of this offence.
If that is true, then surely millions of people commit this offence everyday? A police officer talking to me after pulling me for speeding may well cause me distress, can I have him arrested?
wiggy001 said:
Traffic warden shouldn't have been listening to someone else's conversation 
In this case I do not think she had much choice
wiggy001 said:
I hearby state that i do not understand why anyone would want to do such a job, and I F
You'll never take me alive copper...
Section 5 P.O.A. 1986 also covers writing, visible sign or representation. Be careful what you type. The knock on the door may not be far away!
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