Jags XJ6/12 S1,2,3 or XJ40
Discussion
Further to my other recent what car thread.
I am going to be looking at XJ6/12, may well end up with something else but very cheap insurance (circa £250 for the year) would be silly not to!
Looked into the later X300 but couldn't find cheap insurance (I refuse to pay them over the odds, not that it's always been this way, lol)!
Looking at pros / cons for
XJ6/12 S1,2 and 3
XJ40 (4.0 ltr 6 and 12)
Will be main "daily" car, doing about 12k miles per year.
Don't mind driving oldies as dailies so age doesn't come in to it!
I am going to be looking at XJ6/12, may well end up with something else but very cheap insurance (circa £250 for the year) would be silly not to!
Looked into the later X300 but couldn't find cheap insurance (I refuse to pay them over the odds, not that it's always been this way, lol)!
Looking at pros / cons for
XJ6/12 S1,2 and 3
XJ40 (4.0 ltr 6 and 12)
Will be main "daily" car, doing about 12k miles per year.
Don't mind driving oldies as dailies so age doesn't come in to it!
pixieporsche said:
Further to my other recent what car thread.
I am going to be looking at XJ6/12, may well end up with something else but very cheap insurance (circa £250 for the year) would be silly not to!
Looked into the later X300 but couldn't find cheap insurance (I refuse to pay them over the odds, not that it's always been this way, lol)!
Looking at pros / cons for
XJ6/12 S1,2 and 3
XJ40 (4.0 ltr 6 and 12)
Will be main "daily" car, doing about 12k miles per year.
Don't mind driving oldies as dailies so age doesn't come in to it!
I thought that you could put any jag over 10yrs old onto classic insurance?I am going to be looking at XJ6/12, may well end up with something else but very cheap insurance (circa £250 for the year) would be silly not to!
Looked into the later X300 but couldn't find cheap insurance (I refuse to pay them over the odds, not that it's always been this way, lol)!
Looking at pros / cons for
XJ6/12 S1,2 and 3
XJ40 (4.0 ltr 6 and 12)
Will be main "daily" car, doing about 12k miles per year.
Don't mind driving oldies as dailies so age doesn't come in to it!
Anyway, Go for the V12 series 3 if you want to waft around in style and comfort.
You can have my LPG'd one for 5k
Not on Lancaster (I always use them and don't really want to change - alot of the others are no under 25s anyway 
)
Your series 3 looks very nice
I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?
Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
)Your series 3 looks very nice
I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
pixieporsche said:
Not on Lancaster (I always use them and don't really want to change - alot of the others are no under 25s anyway )
Your series 3 looks very nice I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?
Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
No, i have an LPG tank where the spare wheel should be and still have two petrol tanks.)Your series 3 looks very nice
I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
My first series 3 was a 4.2 and i had no major problems with the engine. I am not very knowledgable about the mechanics of these beasts though i am sure someone who is will be along shortly
Shuvi Tupya said:
pixieporsche said:
Not on Lancaster (I always use them and don't really want to change - alot of the others are no under 25s anyway )
Your series 3 looks very nice I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?
Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
No, i have an LPG tank where the spare wheel should be and still have two petrol tanks.)Your series 3 looks very nice
I never thought about LPG as an option, I take it one tank is petrol the other is LPG in your car?Should I be wary of the XK 4.2 power plant (if I go for a 6)?
My first series 3 was a 4.2 and i had no major problems with the engine. I am not very knowledgable about the mechanics of these beasts though i am sure someone who is will be along shortly
Have also posted in the Jaguar forum too!
I've been to look at a few series 3's: one had engine trouble
due to previously overheating, one had gearbox trouble, one was rusty and one was absolutely beautiful (asking far too much cash though).The tooling for the XK engine was f
ked before the XJ6 began production and only kept going because they had a lot of genius old boys who knew all the tricks for shimming it etc. By the time it got to the Series 3 it was even more fked, BL was in a worse state, and a lot of the genius old boys weren't there any more so there were some really rubbish engines made. However, any that are still running now will either have been sorted or were OK in the first place. Just be careful, if you do have to take it apart, of anomalous parts selections made to make things fit.
ked before the XJ6 began production and only kept going because they had a lot of genius old boys who knew all the tricks for shimming it etc. By the time it got to the Series 3 it was even more fked, BL was in a worse state, and a lot of the genius old boys weren't there any more so there were some really rubbish engines made. However, any that are still running now will either have been sorted or were OK in the first place. Just be careful, if you do have to take it apart, of anomalous parts selections made to make things fit.Pigeon said:
The tooling for the XK engine was fked before the XJ6 began production and only kept going because they had a lot of genius old boys who knew all the tricks for shimming it etc. By the time it got to the Series 3 it was even more fked, BL was in a worse state, and a lot of the genius old boys weren't there any more so there were some really rubbish engines made. However, any that are still running now will either have been sorted or were OK in the first place. Just be careful, if you do have to take it apart, of anomalous parts selections made to make things fit.
Thankyou for the advice ked before the XJ6 began production and only kept going because they had a lot of genius old boys who knew all the tricks for shimming it etc. By the time it got to the Series 3 it was even more fked, BL was in a worse state, and a lot of the genius old boys weren't there any more so there were some really rubbish engines made. However, any that are still running now will either have been sorted or were OK in the first place. Just be careful, if you do have to take it apart, of anomalous parts selections made to make things fit.
The V12 XJ40 (the XJ81) didn't turn up until 1993. From 1986 - 1993, if you wanted a V12, the dealer just ordered you a Series 3.
Early XJ40s have the digital dash, which is unlikely to work (http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?xj40lttf.htm). The early cars are SOHC 2.9 or DOHC 3.6 litre AJ6s, later ones are DOHC 3.2 or 4.0 litre AJ6s. The 2.9 is thirsty and a bit slow and suffers timing chain issues (and IIRC has a V12 head on it, which doesn't line up). The others are fairly indestructible.
Personally, I'm sold on the looks of the X300, which I know doesn't help here. Failing that, I fancy one of the last of the 5.3 litre V12 Series 3s. They'd surely got the hang of putting them together at that point.
Early XJ40s have the digital dash, which is unlikely to work (http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?xj40lttf.htm). The early cars are SOHC 2.9 or DOHC 3.6 litre AJ6s, later ones are DOHC 3.2 or 4.0 litre AJ6s. The 2.9 is thirsty and a bit slow and suffers timing chain issues (and IIRC has a V12 head on it, which doesn't line up). The others are fairly indestructible.
Personally, I'm sold on the looks of the X300, which I know doesn't help here. Failing that, I fancy one of the last of the 5.3 litre V12 Series 3s. They'd surely got the hang of putting them together at that point.
thejpster said:
The V12 XJ40 (the XJ81) didn't turn up until 1993. From 1986 - 1993, if you wanted a V12, the dealer just ordered you a Series 3.
Early XJ40s have the digital dash, which is unlikely to work (http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?xj40lttf.htm). The early cars are SOHC 2.9 or DOHC 3.6 litre AJ6s, later ones are DOHC 3.2 or 4.0 litre AJ6s. The 2.9 is thirsty and a bit slow and suffers timing chain issues (and IIRC has a V12 head on it, which doesn't line up). The others are fairly indestructible.
Personally, I'm sold on the looks of the X300, which I know doesn't help here. Failing that, I fancy one of the last of the 5.3 litre V12 Series 3s. They'd surely got the hang of putting them together at that point.
Thanks for the info Early XJ40s have the digital dash, which is unlikely to work (http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?xj40lttf.htm). The early cars are SOHC 2.9 or DOHC 3.6 litre AJ6s, later ones are DOHC 3.2 or 4.0 litre AJ6s. The 2.9 is thirsty and a bit slow and suffers timing chain issues (and IIRC has a V12 head on it, which doesn't line up). The others are fairly indestructible.
Personally, I'm sold on the looks of the X300, which I know doesn't help here. Failing that, I fancy one of the last of the 5.3 litre V12 Series 3s. They'd surely got the hang of putting them together at that point.
Certainly not going to be bothering with a 2.9 XJ40! OH has one at the moment and it is slow, lol! Last year used it almost daily for a bit while my cars were broken down and off the road. Though it is the lowly 2.9 Auto XJ40 which got me thinking, a more powerful and luxurious version (his is so basic it has cloth trim) could be just what I want!
I like the looks of the X300 too, if I were to buy an XJ40 and it had the square headlamps, I think I may look at doing the twin headlamp conversion.
I would really like a V12
It's not "big or clever", well OK it's big but it certainly is beautiful. 
If OH gets an Interceptor at least I'll have more cylinders in a V12 *must not make it a competition, repeat, and calm down*
though I'd sure spoil that look 
I had an S3 V12 sov for a few years. Bought it to scratch my Jag itch.
it came to me in fairly good nick with low miles but the suspension was worn - bushes perished, and there's a lot of them! and brakes needed work. Once this was done it was a glorious wafter.
I used to liken it to a rocket powered lounge......
The most comfy seats ever, the engine never gave a moments trouble, I had a few niggles elsewhere, the aircon broke every year in July, and when it did you couldn't control the temp at all so once it cooled down you couldn't get much heat either.
It rusted like a Lancia......
Once I'd fixed the vacuum advance I could just squeeze the MPG into the 20's on a run but it needed a better gearbox with a lower 1st (for launches) and a higher top (for cruising).
I was sad to sell it but there was always something to fix. The car never failed to complete any journey, but I just couldn't live with its thirst.
If you're just on the motorway going from one place to another then you can get double the mpg from other things that are nearly as nice to be in.
I miss it though and am considering an X300 3.2. Less power but 10 more mpg will make it useable, now to find an LPG's one........
it came to me in fairly good nick with low miles but the suspension was worn - bushes perished, and there's a lot of them! and brakes needed work. Once this was done it was a glorious wafter.
I used to liken it to a rocket powered lounge......
The most comfy seats ever, the engine never gave a moments trouble, I had a few niggles elsewhere, the aircon broke every year in July, and when it did you couldn't control the temp at all so once it cooled down you couldn't get much heat either.
It rusted like a Lancia......
Once I'd fixed the vacuum advance I could just squeeze the MPG into the 20's on a run but it needed a better gearbox with a lower 1st (for launches) and a higher top (for cruising).
I was sad to sell it but there was always something to fix. The car never failed to complete any journey, but I just couldn't live with its thirst.
If you're just on the motorway going from one place to another then you can get double the mpg from other things that are nearly as nice to be in.
I miss it though and am considering an X300 3.2. Less power but 10 more mpg will make it useable, now to find an LPG's one........
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