water supply pipes
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im currently renovating an old 1880's terraced house. the main water pipe has one stop tap in the street which feeds two houses. it then travels up the entry between the two houses and splits to have a further two stop taps in the yard area.
this is where the problems begin.
the pipe into the house is still the orrignal lead pipe and has no stop tap inside the property.
i need to replumb the everything so i need the water off.
the stop tap is aprox 6-7ft under ground and was covered over with soil. i have managed to get the dirt off and fab a tool to turn the stop tap. however it dose not stop the flow compleatly. if i put more force into it im sure ill snap it. just to make things worse the yard area is concreted.
what are my options call seven trent? plumber? or just do the hard graft my self? any ideas of cost?
this is where the problems begin.
the pipe into the house is still the orrignal lead pipe and has no stop tap inside the property.
i need to replumb the everything so i need the water off.
the stop tap is aprox 6-7ft under ground and was covered over with soil. i have managed to get the dirt off and fab a tool to turn the stop tap. however it dose not stop the flow compleatly. if i put more force into it im sure ill snap it. just to make things worse the yard area is concreted.
what are my options call seven trent? plumber? or just do the hard graft my self? any ideas of cost?
Hi,
I live in a simialr 1860's terrace & had a similar situation. Can't answer re how to turn off supply completly but can say beware, in older style terraces this feed runs under groung/thru cellars & normally feeds 3 or 4 properties. Being lead its a thin bore with poor flow rate, the end house of my terrace couldn't run a washing machine as supply too feeble to turn drum, you may damage someones elses machine turning off without warning.
The water co's seems keen to replace lead supply pipes so did it for free if I dug the channel across my front garden, they then connected with modern large bore plastic for free. The end house of my supply was extremely grateful, now have enough pressure to run boilers, showers, washing machines.
I live in a simialr 1860's terrace & had a similar situation. Can't answer re how to turn off supply completly but can say beware, in older style terraces this feed runs under groung/thru cellars & normally feeds 3 or 4 properties. Being lead its a thin bore with poor flow rate, the end house of my terrace couldn't run a washing machine as supply too feeble to turn drum, you may damage someones elses machine turning off without warning.
The water co's seems keen to replace lead supply pipes so did it for free if I dug the channel across my front garden, they then connected with modern large bore plastic for free. The end house of my supply was extremely grateful, now have enough pressure to run boilers, showers, washing machines.
ok
where it comes into the house its aprox 22m lead which for want of a better word is murged/melted around a 1/2 inch copper pipe.
the feed is deff only for the two houses as each pair has a stop tap in the street.
from Severn trent waters web site
"Severn Trent Water owns and maintains the water mains and services in the street and in the footpath up to the boundary of your property, subject to some minor or rare exceptions.
All property owners are responsible, by law, for maintaining the underground water service pipe that runs from the boundary of their property into the home. In other words, if there is a leak on this part of the service pipe within the property boundary, the responsibility for making a repair falls to the property owner. In some circumstances, responsibility may extend beyond the property boundary.
The diagram below shows a detailed illustration of property boundaries and responsibilities.
As part of our effort to reduce water leakage we may be able to help.
Severn Trent Water provides a free, non emergency, repair service for
straightforward leaks on service pipes. We will not carry out a free
repair if the leak is found to be:
• inside your home
• under or close to a wall, shed, garage or any
permanent structure
• under a block paved or concrete reinforced surface
We will also not repair free of charge if:
• we cannot readily identify where the leak is. For example, on a
very long length of pipe
• the leak is on someone else’s property
• the pipework is in very poor condition. For example, if the
service pipe has burst more than twice in the previous two years
We do not provide an ‘emergency service’ in relation to private pipes
and will deal with the leak in working hours as part of our normal
workload.
A representative from Severn Trent Water will advise you if the free
repair service is applicable, given your circumstances and what to
do next.
If we cannot offer a free repair then we will be happy, in most cases,
to provide a price to carry out the work. Alternatively, you can repair
the leak yourself or use a contractor or plumber of your choice, at
your own expense."
so maybe if i dig up the concreat they will do it for me?
i could as you say ferg do it live but i would like to get rid of the lead.
where it comes into the house its aprox 22m lead which for want of a better word is murged/melted around a 1/2 inch copper pipe.
the feed is deff only for the two houses as each pair has a stop tap in the street.
from Severn trent waters web site
"Severn Trent Water owns and maintains the water mains and services in the street and in the footpath up to the boundary of your property, subject to some minor or rare exceptions.
All property owners are responsible, by law, for maintaining the underground water service pipe that runs from the boundary of their property into the home. In other words, if there is a leak on this part of the service pipe within the property boundary, the responsibility for making a repair falls to the property owner. In some circumstances, responsibility may extend beyond the property boundary.
The diagram below shows a detailed illustration of property boundaries and responsibilities.
As part of our effort to reduce water leakage we may be able to help.
Severn Trent Water provides a free, non emergency, repair service for
straightforward leaks on service pipes. We will not carry out a free
repair if the leak is found to be:
• inside your home
• under or close to a wall, shed, garage or any
permanent structure
• under a block paved or concrete reinforced surface
We will also not repair free of charge if:
• we cannot readily identify where the leak is. For example, on a
very long length of pipe
• the leak is on someone else’s property
• the pipework is in very poor condition. For example, if the
service pipe has burst more than twice in the previous two years
We do not provide an ‘emergency service’ in relation to private pipes
and will deal with the leak in working hours as part of our normal
workload.
A representative from Severn Trent Water will advise you if the free
repair service is applicable, given your circumstances and what to
do next.
If we cannot offer a free repair then we will be happy, in most cases,
to provide a price to carry out the work. Alternatively, you can repair
the leak yourself or use a contractor or plumber of your choice, at
your own expense."
so maybe if i dig up the concreat they will do it for me?
i could as you say ferg do it live but i would like to get rid of the lead.
To hopefully answer other question as well, as the supply pipe is lead in my case Yorkshire Water laid a new plastic pipe from the street, across my garden into the cellar to a stop tap, my resposibility from there. Another pipe then leads through cellar wall to the next 3 properties. This was free if drain dug allowing instant laying for them, as said,keen to remove lead from the system.
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