Lotus Europa - why so few?

[Blown2CV]

Why are there hardly any of these about? Personally I think they look great, and if they handle anywhere near as good as an Elise but are slightly softer could be ideal for me?

[cuprabob]

cause there is one in Emmerdale

[scorcher]

Too expensive , not particulary well built, and cramped compared to cars it should of been rivalling?

[justin220]

cuprabob said:

cause there is one in Emmerdale

That's the Evora.

The Europa is a great car IMO. But it's was poorly marketed at the time.

[kambites]

I think the biggest problem was that Lotus marketed it as something it wasn't - a GT. They were quite expensive new, too.

[Jem0911]

There was one parked outside my house last night when I got home.
Not as pretty as I thought it could have been.
Bit stumpy?
And no he wasn't giving the Mrs a seeing too!

[Blown2CV]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2009...

good used buy though maybe?

[SteveS Cup]

I must admit I really like the look of the Europa. I know nothing about it TBH to the point that I don't even know the engine it uses!

I can't stand the Evora.

[SteveS Cup]

Blown2CV said:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2009...

good used buy though maybe?

Looking in the Classifieds on here it would appear so to.

[kambites]

SteveS Cup said:

I must admit I really like the look of the Europa. I know nothing about it TBH to the point that I don't even know the engine it uses!

THe 2.0 litre Vauxhall turbo lump. Basically, the Europa is a VX220 mk2.

[justin220]

SteveS Cup said:

I must admit I really like the look of the Europa. I know nothing about it TBH to the point that I don't even know the engine it uses!

I can't stand the Evora.

2.0 Turbo, from the VX220/Astra IIRC

[SteveS Cup]

I like it even more now!

[Blown2CV]

SteveS Cup said:

Blown2CV said:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2009...

good used buy though maybe?

Looking in the Classifieds on here it would appear so to.

even better

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

most of these haven't been driven a lot

[Ozzie Osmond]

Elise - 4 pot Toyota for £25k

Europa - 4 pot Vauxhall for £35k

It's a price thing, simple as that since they're both on the same chassis.

[Scuffers]

Blown2CV said:

Why are there hardly any of these about? Personally I think they look great, and if they handle anywhere near as good as an Elise but are slightly softer could be ideal for me?

as said, when you consider they are a VX220 turbo with a different body, yet cost almost double the money, it sort of makes the point.

good car, way too much money.

[kambites]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Elise - 4 pot Toyota for £25k

Europa - 4 pot Vauxhall for £35k

It's a price thing, simple as that since they're both on the same chassis.

To be fair, it's probably most directly comparable to the supercharged Elise/Exige, and you can easily pay 35k for one of them.

[justin220]

Look great in black!

[cuprabob]

justin220 said:

cuprabob said:

cause there is one in Emmerdale

That's the Evora.

The Europa is a great car IMO. But it's was poorly marketed at the time.

Apologies you are of course correct, my mistake.

just goes to show how good the Lotus marketing is.

[mat205125]

SteveS Cup said:

I can't stand the Evora.

I'm not asking you to justify your own opinion, rather using this post as an example.

I've read a number of similar posts regarding the Evora, and I'm at a loss as to why this may be.

I can appreciate that it is unarguably too heavy for what it is / should be, and that asthetics are a very personal thing, but I can't help thinking that this is the kinds of car that we should be encouraging manufacturers to be making.

I hope that they prove to have an acceptable reliability record, and look forward to them getting towards the £20k mark ...... I'm still waiting for a £30k R8 too though

[robsa]

I do like it and that seems a good price used for a nearly new car, but.... if I actually had the cash in my hand...

A 23k 997?!

This would probably be what I bought!