OT: Phony Tonys utter cynicism

OT: Phony Tonys utter cynicism

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JMGS4

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8,820 posts

283 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Just saw Tony spouting about the tragic Damilola case.
Not only does he have the cynicism to put a lot of pressure on the case officers "to get a result quickly" , when it goes wrong (? did it???), he then posesses the sheer gall to tell the public not to hold the police responsible..... Now lets get one thing clear.... no damned PC political pressure and some time to work on the case then there MAY have been a better result,,,, but IMHO I don't believe the police to be at fault. Just those sqeamish yellow bellied politicians who want be seen to get things done but when it goes wrong hide behind some flimsy excuses....
TIME TO STAND DOWN phony tony..... we've all seen through your scaremongering and lies and half truths or what do they call it ? being niggardly with the truth? Sanctimonious B******
FG

CarZee

13,382 posts

280 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Agreed. Go now BLiar.. we hate you!

(Boy I feel jaded today... )

mr_tony

6,339 posts

282 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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CarZee - Err who would you have instead then? Just interested to know...

CarZee

13,382 posts

280 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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That's the problem isn't it.. Nonegreen would have to work a months notice before he could step in....

plotloss

67,280 posts

283 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Boris Johnson I reckon, he just seems like a decent bloke.

Actually anyone who doesnt pander to every whining moaning politically correct pressure group would be a start.

Tipified by the dont smack your kids lobby who if they had been smacked as children probably would have gone out and done something worthwhile with their lives as opposed to being responsible at least in part for the rise in juvenile crime.

Matt.

RUF 3

240 posts

280 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Every time I see that patronising supercilious b@$tard BLiar on the telly, wringing his hands and speaking slowly in the vain attempt to sound sincere about his speech, it makes me want to throw a brick at the telly.
How have we ended up reinstalling this greedy smug imbecile for another few years. Come the revolution I would have him, Three Jags, and the rest of them strung up by their b@ll$ with cheesewire and after an hour of that dipped slowly in boiling oil, feet first ,to prolong the pain.

Jason F

1,183 posts

297 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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one thing I don't understand.

Why do we have a Socialist leader who has earnings way in excess of the majority of the public, and a socialist party full of millionaires ?!?!?!?

If they want to spread the wealth, then why don't they start donating their huge pots of cash to me and my poor friends ?? And strangely enough, a lot of the legal loopholes that allow these rich b*****s to dodge paying the tax that gets taken straight outta my wages are still open.

I honestly think TB (good initials eh ) has/had some good ideas, but seems to want to be loved by everyone, which just isn't possible for a leader. Dumb

sjc

14,755 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th April 2002
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Blairs lot has got in with two massive majoritys, but I've yet to meet anyone who actually admits to voting for them!...strange.

JMGS4

Original Poster:

8,820 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th April 2002
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CarZee - Err who would you have instead then? Just interested to know...



PetrolTed for President, Jeremy Clarkson for Min of Traffic, Hertsbiker for Chief rozzer, the double barreled Vicky wassername from TopGear as Min of Education (vehicle that is) and me (if votes for and free of salary just a TVR to run around in) as financial director of the lot.
Eeeeeh baahh gooom lad then there'd be a lot of government workers in the dole queue instead of running it.................
Rant mode off......

ahonen

5,028 posts

292 months

Saturday 27th April 2002
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Socialism? Labour is Labour in name only; they just made themselves electable by telling the nation what it wanted to hear. The nation thought "ooh, this looks good" and voted for them without a moment's thought.

Personally, and I know lots would disagree, I'd like to see someone like Richard Branson running the country. Let's get rid of career politicians and bring in businessmen to run what is really just a giant business. One or two of them might actually resign when things go wrong, too, rather than clinging on and patronising the nation.

Paddy Ashdown would have made a great leader, like him or loathe him. A proper bloke who was in the special forces (SBS, I think) and was passionate about what he stood for. Can you honestly imagine Blair going up against Milosovic at his war crimes trial like Mr Pantsdown did? I think not; he'd be terrified. Paddy could have got the nation behind him. And he'd have given us proportional representation, too. But "there's no point voting Lib Dem because they'll never get in" as the mantra goes, "I'll vote Labour because it'll stop the Tories". Bring in PR and get rid of tactical voting: we might get a true picture of how the country feels, then.

Labour lies, cheats, bends and breaks rules and then won't admit when it's wrong (tax on NHS etc). They play on people's greed to get in (no tax rises - NHS is fine), then shaft us at every opportunity while pretending to be our friend. My hatred for New Lab runs pretty deep these days. I just want the people running the country - our servants, let's not forget - to tell it like it is and give a straight answer to a straight question, even if the news is bad.

Oh, and spend less time flying around the world starting wars and a bit more time sorting out a nation that is in a complete bloody mess.

I'm sorry about that, people, but it really winds me up. Perhaps I've been watching Mark Thomas too much...

nonegreen

7,803 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th April 2002
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CarZee - Err who would you have instead then? Just interested to know...




A better job would be done by :

Donald Duck
Micky Mouse
Kylie Minogue
Michael Shuemaker
My dead Grandfather
A little stone I saw on the beach last week that promised to be nice!!!!
The entire membership from horse and horse co.uk
In fact just about anone or any thing that exists within the universe.....

Agent006

12,058 posts

277 months

Sunday 28th April 2002
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Let's look at the past: Mrs Thatcher

Unpopular, and in governmnet for a long time.

Now lets look at the differences between her and Mr Blair... oh there aren't any.

And he then wonders why the BNP are getting votes.

PetrolTed

34,447 posts

316 months

Sunday 28th April 2002
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"I say to you"

Why does he keep saying that. We know he's saying it to us because he's well, saying it. Knob.

Jason F

1,183 posts

297 months

Sunday 28th April 2002
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"I say to you"

Why does he keep saying that. We know he's saying it to us because he's well, saying it. Knob.



What he should be saying is, My Scriptwriters/Spindoctor/wife* say to you....

*delete as applicable

nonegreen

7,803 posts

283 months

Sunday 28th April 2002
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"I say to you"

Why does he keep saying that. We know he's saying it to us because he's well, saying it. Knob.



What he should be saying is, My Scriptwriters/Spindoctor/wife* say to you....

*delete as applicable



The other guy who does that is the rev Ian Paisley

I think deleting Tony'y spindoctors, scriptwriters and wife would all be very positive contributions to humanity.

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

284 months

Monday 29th April 2002
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errr. I feel some controversy about to erupt from my keyboard. Sorry if any offends, but what is it about this Dami-bleeding-lola case that keeps cropping up?

Lots of people get killed, some of which are tragic waste of life (as this was), and some are a good job (the burglar at Tony Martins farmhouse).

So then. Had it have been a white child, would there have been as much fuss? I think not. This is a tragedy, being made into a crisis by political scheming. And that is almost as despicable as the killing of an innocent person.

Are the accused people innocent? well, the court seemed to think so, despite the best efforts of the Police. And we all know how much they like a "quick fix", or "instant scapegoat". Would we feel better if some potentially innocent people went to prison?

Nah, we need to look at this again in a fresh light, or maybe even drop the topic. It's gone. Maybe it was an "accident" ?? who knows, were YOU there? Rest in peace, kid.

rgds, Carl.

PetrolTed

34,447 posts

316 months

Monday 29th April 2002
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Had it have been a white child, would there have been as much fuss?

I think there probably would have been. And the media would have turned it into a race issue as well as a 'poverty' one.

I do think it's a bit of a laugh all these lefty social worker types going on about the 'poverty' that people live in. It's all relative. I'm very thankful I don't live on a low income but 'poverty' in the UK in the 21st century is judged as some proportion of the average wage, no longer whether people are starving/malnourished etc.

plotloss

67,280 posts

283 months

Monday 29th April 2002
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I have been thinking about this topic over the weekend. It occurs to me that if this is a democracy then there really should be an option on the ballot paper that says something along the lines of 'I object to the current process of government' or something along those lines.

Matt.

kevinday

12,913 posts

293 months

Monday 29th April 2002
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I agree with Ahonen, running a country is like running a large multi-national conglomerate and is therefore best done by experienced business men/women. The PM post should be filled by a chairman/president/CEO type, the Finance Minister by a CFO etc. Keep the MPs for a channel to process the voters wishes (i.e. representing the people, which is what they are supposed to do).

GregE240

10,857 posts

280 months

Monday 29th April 2002
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Isn't it strange though that once MP's get put out to stud, they mostly end up as non-exec directors, meaning a 2 day week and a fat pay cheque, whilst dictating their company strategy ?
So they spend years in government sending the country down the pan then move on to big business. Marvellous. No wonder this country's doing so well.