R26 F1 230 Vs Modded Mk1 TT

R26 F1 230 Vs Modded Mk1 TT

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Big Tav

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645 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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HI guys,

Looking at both of these cars now. I think it is down to either of these two. I know they are quite different but sort of the same too. For say around £10,000 you can get a 07 R26 which is fast, handles well (from what I have read, never driven), looks good (to me) recaros, Brembos and tuneable.

A modded TT Quattro for this money could have Remap (with 260+hp), exhaust, brembo upgrade, rims + more.

Both look good to me but have only driven a stock TT 04 model in manual which was pretty good. TT will be anywhere from 2000 to 2005 model where as the Megane could be 07-08. So one has better build quality I guess but the other is newer.

Has anyone driven (or owned) both to give me some more insight to help me with my decision as there aren't to many around for sale in Edinburgh. (No R26's anyway)

Cheers.

davepoth

29,395 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Depends what you want it for really. The R26 is an all out track day car, so is a big compromise for commuting, although probably one I could live with if I could afford it.

The TT is going to be less good on the track (with the R26 you are paying for a lot of track development) but assuming the mods are done right it'll still be a good car for day to day.

Big Tav

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645 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Hi mate. Thanks for the reply. I mean the R26 F1 230 too not the R26r. I would love one of those though but just no practical at this time frown

davepoth

29,395 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Big Tav said:
Hi mate. Thanks for the reply. I mean the R26 F1 230 too not the R26r. I would love one of those though but just no practical at this time frown
Fair enough. biggrin

I'd still go for the Renault. Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea. So unless you can get the TT in something like the spec you want it'll be a slow process getting it where you want it to be.


andyp74199

141 posts

206 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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I owned an R26 07 plate from new doing 45k miles in 2 trouble free years, superb car can't recommend them enough. I havent owned a tt but have driven a few. There's not going to be alot of difference in performance but the tt will be older and cost you more money to modify and will need new service items also. The R26 is sorted straight away, a remap being the only thing that is worth doing (the chassis can easily handle 270hp). Use ktec in Dorset or rs tuning in Leeds for the remap. Job done. By the way the R26 is a phase 2 megane built in the Renaultsport factory in Dieppe, it had much better build quality than the stuff churned by the other Renault factories.

Edited by andyp74199 on Wednesday 12th January 05:17


Edited by andyp74199 on Wednesday 12th January 05:18

winterwinter

32 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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davepoth said:
Big Tav said:
Hi mate. Thanks for the reply. I mean the R26 F1 230 too not the R26r. I would love one of those though but just no practical at this time frown
Fair enough. biggrin

I'd still go for the Renault. Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea. So unless you can get the TT in something like the spec you want it'll be a slow process getting it where you want it to be.
yup, nice point.

Big Tav

Original Poster:

645 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Just to add the tt would already be modified when I buy it. I will only consider a mint one that has everything already done.

andyp74199

141 posts

206 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Test driving both is the only way, especially if you are looking at various modded tt's, some will be epic and some will dogs. Personally I'd still choose the newer R26.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

205 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

205 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Big Tav said:
HI guys,

Looking at both of these cars now. I think it is down to either of these two. I know they are quite different but sort of the same too. For say around £10,000 you can get a 07 R26 which is fast, handles well (from what I have read, never driven), looks good (to me) recaros, Brembos and tuneable.

A modded TT Quattro for this money could have Remap (with 260+hp), exhaust, brembo upgrade, rims + more.

Both look good to me but have only driven a stock TT 04 model in manual which was pretty good. TT will be anywhere from 2000 to 2005 model where as the Megane could be 07-08. So one has better build quality I guess but the other is newer.

Has anyone driven (or owned) both to give me some more insight to help me with my decision as there aren't to many around for sale in Edinburgh. (No R26's anyway)

Cheers.
I think the biggest thing is you need to decide what you want from the car.

The TT's actually look quite good IMO, a bit yuppy and not a great image, but certainly not an unattractive car.

But even modded I'm not sure how much of a drivers car it'll be. Sure it might be fast and grip well, but that's not quite the same thing.

It's also a coupe, which suggests carrying people or stuff isn't really a priority.

The Renault, well its a FWD hatch. So chances are it'll lose money quite quickly and it'll drive like a FWD hatch.

Lots of other cars at this money too.

marcosgt

11,329 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

205 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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marcosgt said:
300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.
Agreed, a badly modded car is just a heap. wink

Actually you remind me. OP - have you thought about a Maxda RX-8? Ok they drink fuel, but apart from that they are really good cars.

Coupe looks, but still with 4 proper seats and a boot. RWD and a lovely balanced chassis. Not the most speedy in a straight line and no huge turbo shove, but they aren't slouches either.

minimatt1967

17,285 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
marcosgt said:
300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.
Agreed, a badly modded car is just a heap. wink

Actually you remind me. OP - have you thought about a Maxda RX-8? Ok they drink fuel, but apart from that they are really good cars.

Coupe looks, but still with 4 proper seats and a boot. RWD and a lovely balanced chassis. Not the most speedy in a straight line and no huge turbo shove, but they aren't slouches either.
They do go well, I'm 6'2" and fit in the back in relative comfort, just a shame they sound a bit like a washing machine. Can't have everything I suppose.

Sour Kraut

45,899 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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minimatt1967 said:
300bhp/ton said:
marcosgt said:
300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.
Agreed, a badly modded car is just a heap. wink

Actually you remind me. OP - have you thought about a Maxda RX-8? Ok they drink fuel, but apart from that they are really good cars.

Coupe looks, but still with 4 proper seats and a boot. RWD and a lovely balanced chassis. Not the most speedy in a straight line and no huge turbo shove, but they aren't slouches either.
They do go well, I'm 6'2" and fit in the back in relative comfort, .
Really? I'm 6'3" and don't even fit in the front!

plg

4,106 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
The Renault, well its a FWD hatch. So chances are it'll lose money quite quickly and it'll drive like a FWD hatch.
Agree with most of this, and it is FWD hatch, but it's an exceedingly capable one.

In R26 form, didn't it become EVOs car of the year in 2008 beating some exceedingly nice metal?

minimatt1967

17,285 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Sour Kraut said:
minimatt1967 said:
300bhp/ton said:
marcosgt said:
300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.
Agreed, a badly modded car is just a heap. wink

Actually you remind me. OP - have you thought about a Maxda RX-8? Ok they drink fuel, but apart from that they are really good cars.

Coupe looks, but still with 4 proper seats and a boot. RWD and a lovely balanced chassis. Not the most speedy in a straight line and no huge turbo shove, but they aren't slouches either.
They do go well, I'm 6'2" and fit in the back in relative comfort, .
Really? I'm 6'3" and don't even fit in the front!
Yeah, the friend driving wasn't exactly short either. Odd?

Sour Kraut

45,899 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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minimatt1967 said:
Yeah, the friend driving wasn't exactly short either. Odd?
Sure it was an RX-8? Can easily be mistaken for a Rolls Phantom.

Arun_D

2,317 posts

210 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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I had an R26 for around a year, before moving to an R26.R for around the same time. Cracking cars. The normal R26 is a superb all-rounder. Comfy on the road with all the toys for long journeys (cruise etc), and a hoot on track. R26.R obviously took that slightly further but the base R26 is 99% there.


plg said:
In R26 form, didn't it become EVOs car of the year in 2008 beating some exceedingly nice metal?
Nah, it was in R26.R form and won the 'affordable' section of the competition in the UK to allow it to progress against the big boys in France. Finished 4th IIRC, Nissan GTR won.



Edited by Arun_D on Wednesday 12th January 10:33

minimatt1967

17,285 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Sour Kraut said:
minimatt1967 said:
Yeah, the friend driving wasn't exactly short either. Odd?
Sure it was an RX-8? Can easily be mistaken for a Rolls Phantom.
It's possible, although I can't really see the Roller being for sale for £6k. I'll text him in a bit to make sure though.

marcosgt

11,329 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Sour Kraut said:
minimatt1967 said:
300bhp/ton said:
marcosgt said:
300bhp/ton said:
davepoth said:
Buying a car knowing it needs several grands' worth of work doing to it to get it to your liking is never a good idea.
I think that depends, for some people personalising a car or making it how you want it is part of the fun and enjoyment of owning it.

Also a properly modded car is often likely to out perform a stock car by a notable amount.
QFA smile

There are far too many 'modded' cars around which are just poor bodge jobs.

M.
Agreed, a badly modded car is just a heap. wink

Actually you remind me. OP - have you thought about a Maxda RX-8? Ok they drink fuel, but apart from that they are really good cars.

Coupe looks, but still with 4 proper seats and a boot. RWD and a lovely balanced chassis. Not the most speedy in a straight line and no huge turbo shove, but they aren't slouches either.
They do go well, I'm 6'2" and fit in the back in relative comfort, .
Really? I'm 6'3" and don't even fit in the front!
Long in the body and short in the leg or did it have a sunroof (lowers the roof quite a bit), otherwise no problem.

M.

PS sorry to go off-topic - To OP - Megane - Only good way of modding a Mk1 TT is to put it in a crusher, IMO wink