Changing from Winter Tyres back to Summer Tyres
Changing from Winter Tyres back to Summer Tyres
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Ecurie Ecosse

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4,812 posts

249 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Hi Guys

With the weather hotting up (comparitively - it was 9 degrees in Edinburgh this morning!) I was wondering what the consensus is about when to change back to summer tyres?

Go for it now, or wait until about March in case there are any other cold spells?

Edited by Ecurie Ecosse on Friday 14th January 12:52

slipstream 1985

13,798 posts

210 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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far too early, havnt seen the last of the snow yet!

Patrick Bateman

13,219 posts

205 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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It's mid-January, there's plenty cold to come.

Ecurie Ecosse

Original Poster:

4,812 posts

249 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Thanks guys - will keep them on for now.

RedWhiteMonkey

9,240 posts

213 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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It's still winter, just because its not snowing at the moment I still wouldn't look to change until end of February (and then it would depend on the weather).

simion_levi

257 posts

253 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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The forecast is only showing 3 out of the next 15 days with a peak of 7+ degrees here. All of the warmer days will apparently be chucking down with a vengeance and the TS830's are pretty good at clearing water, so they'll definitely be staying on.


petrolsniffer

2,562 posts

205 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Way too early i'd say smile

I'd wait untill atleast start of march?

FasterFreddy

8,577 posts

268 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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I've just been out in the wet at a temp. of 11 degrees and my brand new Nokians have still got more grip than the part worn summer tyres which came off. I'm keeping them on at least until March, maybe later.

Patrick Bateman

13,219 posts

205 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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FasterFreddy said:
I've just been out in the wet at a temp. of 11 degrees and my brand new Nokians have still got more grip than the part worn summer tyres which came off. I'm keeping them on at least until March, maybe later.
If they're WRG2s then they're a more rounded tyre anyway.

mosstrooper

317 posts

262 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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I took my winters off on the last weekend of March 2010.

Two days later....


Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

223 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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You mean you still have tread on your winter tyres?

Mine are getting down to 3mm now, I'm looking to replace them in February when I have some cash!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

276 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
You mean you still have tread on your winter tyres?

Mine are getting down to 3mm now, I'm looking to replace them in February when I have some cash!
In places where winter tyres are legally required they don't count as winter tyres once worn to 4mm.

dylan0451

1,040 posts

222 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
You mean you still have tread on your winter tyres?
err, i'd be hoping one set would last more than 1 winter!

i was down the pub last night and someone asked if i 'had' to throw away by brand new winter tyres now it's not winter anymore?! them proceeded to laugh at what a waste of money they were!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Still got 2 inches of ice on our drive, the other half almost took out the fence last night due to ice

We aren't swapping over yet.

Also we got snowed in once last year and that was in april

Lionsden

189 posts

196 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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I hope we've not seen the last of it!!! My KL71's were great fun in the snow, although they're really mud tyres, I was pulling people out the snow for fun...


munroman

1,908 posts

215 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Ecurie Ecosse said:
Hi Guys

With the weather hotting up (comparitively - it was 9 degrees in Edinburgh this morning!) I was wondering what the consensus is about when to change back to summer tyres?

Go for it now, or wait until about March in case there are any other cold spells?

Edited by Ecurie Ecosse on Friday 14th January 12:52
I went to a Hamish Brown (mountaineer) lecture once, he showed a slide of people waist deep in snow in a blizzard, another of people sunbathing.

The first picture was taken on Midsummers Day, the second on Hogmanay, so I would hold off for a few months yet! smile

HellDiver

5,708 posts

213 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Changed back to my summers today, just finished about an hour ago.

If there is freaky snow etc it's only an hour to swap back again. My Graspics are totally pants unless it's deep snow or sheet ice. But then again, they're the wrong winters for this country.

Only wore 0.5mm off the fronts and 0.0mm off the rears since October. This is probably why they're so pants in the warm/wet - the tread is hard as nails for cutting the sipes in to the ice and snow.

rob.e

2,863 posts

309 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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HellDiver said:
Changed back to my summers today, just finished about an hour ago.

If there is freaky snow etc it's only an hour to swap back again. My Graspics are totally pants unless it's deep snow or sheet ice. But then again, they're the wrong winters for this country.

Only wore 0.5mm off the fronts and 0.0mm off the rears since October. This is probably why they're so pants in the warm/wet - the tread is hard as nails for cutting the sipes in to the ice and snow.
I'm considering pulling the blizzaks of the BMW as they are pretty rubbish in the warm weather, TC light is on a LOT compared to the summer tyres in the same conditions. They were awesome in the snow but i'm concerned about wearing them out..

As has been said its not much effort to pop them back on again..

HellDiver

5,708 posts

213 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Well, today on damp roads at 11C on the dash, my front wheels were losing traction accelerating in 3rd. That's a 125hp 1.8 Mondeo.

On the summers under same conditions it can't break traction in 1st without dumping the clutch, and even then it'll often slip the clutch instead.

Both sets of tyres are 205-55-16, summers are Uniroyal RainExpert and winters are the Dunlop Graspic DS3.

Thirsty33

250 posts

267 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Stick with them till March.

Its all about the odds with winter/summer change. You want the tyre which on average is going to be best most of the time, unless you love jacking your car up. From November to March this is a Winter Tyre, outside these times its a summer tyre. There will always be exceptional days when you are not on the perfect tyre for the job, but this gives you the best odds.

Rationale as follows:-

Average UK temp is around or below 7C from approx Nov to end February, even ignoring recent crazy weather. Even when the mean is pushing 8 & 9, most driving for most people is done early AM or late PM when the temps are colder (dawn is usually the coldest time of day), so most of the time during this period the chances are that you are better off on winter tyres. (No I haven't done a full scientific analysis of this, but I think it holds as a generalisation)

True, some times you will go out and it will be 10C or 12C, but this only means the winter tyre will be operating slightly below its best - but performance doesn't fall off a cliff. And if you change back to summers, you will stand a much greater chance of operating them sub-optimally more of the time than you will winter tyres until February is out. February is usually very cold.

For me, it will be the first warm spell in March when they come off, and in end October/November, the first cold spell they go back on.

They have been a revelation in the wet as well as the more obvious snow benefits, and I am comparing with some of the best wet weather summer tyres (according to all the magazine tests)

In the warmer/drier weather they are less good than my summer tyres, but cold or wet and they really come into their own - they almost seem to grip better than in the dry, but that can't be correct. Even at 12C today for example in very wet conditions, they were ace in the wet and barely slowed me down compared to driving in the dry, except for standing water when caution was the best option. They're good, but they don't do miracles.