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Fittster

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20,120 posts

237 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Trying to sort out a cheapish (quite when something that looks like it going to cost the best part of 10K became cheap I’ve no idea) kitchen. I’ve got quotes from your normal firms such as B&Q, Ikea and Wickes and I’ve had a nose around Howdens. Once I’ve decided on which kitchen to go for the next issue is installation.

The big retailers offer their own installation services but am I better off getting an independent kitchen fitter to do the installation? Is the saving great enough to justify the extra hassle.

Unfortunately my DIY skills aren’t sufficiently developed to tackle the installation myself

paul0843

1,968 posts

231 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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the prices b&q etc charge are at least twice the going rate because ideally
the would rather supply only.. i thing going rate is about £40 a unit approx.
you should ask around for a good kitchen fitter/carpenter.. they can make or break a job...try and avoid a jack of all trades unless they have the right tools for mitring etc..
a good kitchen fitter will also be able to sort out plumbing and electrics
associated with kitchen..

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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I would be aiming to pay about a £1000 for a run of the mill kitchen to be fitted

Vron

2,541 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Fittster said:
Trying to sort out a cheapish (quite when something that looks like it going to cost the best part of 10K became cheap I’ve no idea) kitchen. I’ve got quotes from your normal firms such as B&Q, Ikea and Wickes and I’ve had a nose around Howdens. Once I’ve decided on which kitchen to go for the next issue is installation.

The big retailers offer their own installation services but am I better off getting an independent kitchen fitter to do the installation? Is the saving great enough to justify the extra hassle.

Unfortunately my DIY skills aren’t sufficiently developed to tackle the installation myself
Just had my IKEA kitchen fitted by a guy in Worksop. Very good and specialises in fitting flat pack kitchens. He used to be an installer for MFI years ago and was horrified at the prices they were charging. I paid £1470 it took them 5 days, most of the time there were two working on it, one day there was three. He does travel a bit so pm me if you want his details.

herbialfa

1,489 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Defo don't go down the route of supply & fit!

Buy and get someone else to fit it!

Slagathore

6,183 posts

216 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Wouldn't bother with the Supply and fit. The supplier will still want to make some money on the fitting of the units, so will bump the price up more.

Depending on the size, for a normal size kitchen, I'd expect to pay around £1-2k. ~£200 a day per person working on it, though, if there's two people, it shouldn't take too long. Or if it's 1 chippy and his labourer, £200 for the chippy and about £100 for the labourer.


m4ckg

625 posts

215 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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a supply and fit from an independent would be more cost effective and you should get a better quality of kitchen

skeeterm5

4,465 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Have you thought about a free standing kitchen? Fitting is then minimal.

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Spudler

3,985 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Slagathore said:
Wouldn't bother with the Supply and fit. The supplier will still want to make some money on the fitting of the units, so will bump the price up more.

Depending on the size, for a normal size kitchen, I'd expect to pay around £1-2k. ~£200 a day per person working on it, though, if there's two people, it shouldn't take too long. Or if it's 1 chippy and his labourer, £200 for the chippy and about £100 for the labourer.
This is the going rate.

GTO-3R

7,911 posts

237 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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paul0843 said:
the prices b&q etc charge are at least twice the going rate because ideally
the would rather supply only.. i thing going rate is about £40 a unit approx.
you should ask around for a good kitchen fitter/carpenter.. they can make or break a job...try and avoid a jack of all trades unless they have the right tools for mitring etc..
a good kitchen fitter will also be able to sort out plumbing and electrics
associated with kitchen..
£40 per unit?? That is expensive. Our fitters charge £25 for a base unit, £20 for a wall unit and £30 for a tall housing. Ours are all rigid carcases so no assembly smile

paul0843

1,968 posts

231 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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must be that north south divide thing i keep reading about

x5x3

2,426 posts

277 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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I think I need to get you guys to speak to my wife - our new kitchen is currently coming in at just over £40K.

Whilst I admit it does look stunning - it seems a lot of money for something I only use a couple of times a day!

Seems the only input I have these days is pay the bills frown

Simpo Two

91,507 posts

289 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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x5x3 said:
our new kitchen is currently coming in at just over £40K. Whilst I admit it does look stunning - it seems a lot of money for something I only use a couple of times a day!
But think of the bragging rights...


RodentRacing

1,502 posts

295 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Have you considered using a cabinet maker rather than B&Q etc? Mine is being made and installed by a local chap for about the same as supply only quotes I had from the big names.

There's the added benefit of not having to use standard cabinet sizes with filler panels. My kitchen is fairly small so no wasted space makes quite a difference.

Anthony Micallef

1,128 posts

219 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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We had a new kitchen about 14 months ago. We went with a local firm in the end who fitted our £10k kitchen for £950. B&Q wanted to supply us with a £7.5k kitchen and charge us £7.5k to fit it!!!!

james_tigerwoods

16,344 posts

221 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Our kitchen came in at a staggering £1400* - 3 days and £740 to install it and cut the relevant cabinets to fit, the guy that fit it did a stunning job and applied the same work ethic to this kitchen as to any other (much more expensive) one he'd worked on.

He was conscientious and ensured that we were left with a working house each evening - even spending an extra hour after he drained the boiler to ensure it filled and heated up properly and staying to help trace a gas leak after the hob was fitted (by someone that he got in - all included in the £740) - he even gave me some advice around my planned tiling.

I did, however, do some of the work myself - tiling, painting, etc - but the kitchen looks pretty good so far - just the floor to do and I'm getting someone in to do that.

I got it from a local kitchen supplier who spent a good couple of hours at the house working out what was going where and making suggestions to us - far more thorough than B&Q or anyone else - he recommended the fitter (it's one he uses a lot) so I had confidence in the fitting and supplying.

* Yes, fourteen hundred pounds - none of this £40k business...

ETA - B&Q's quote was £1600 for the same kitchen (without the hob) and fitting (by them) was £2500!

Edited by james_tigerwoods on Monday 17th January 10:58

x5x3

2,426 posts

277 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Simpo Two said:
x5x3 said:
our new kitchen is currently coming in at just over £40K. Whilst I admit it does look stunning - it seems a lot of money for something I only use a couple of times a day!
But think of the bragging rights...

lol - is that the "I am considerably richer than you" (in a Brummie accent wasn't it?) character?

If I was going to brag about it - I'd rather it was £40K cash in the bank than spent on a kitchen!

I guess the question comes down to two things, how can a £1.4 kitchen look anywhere near as good as a £40K one and how can it last as long?

And by the way - I am very happy to be proven wrong on this - whether you can persuade Mrs x5x3 is another matter though wink

Spudler

3,985 posts

220 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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x5x3 said:
Simpo Two said:
x5x3 said:
our new kitchen is currently coming in at just over £40K. Whilst I admit it does look stunning - it seems a lot of money for something I only use a couple of times a day!
But think of the bragging rights...

lol - is that the "I am considerably richer than you" (in a Brummie accent wasn't it?) character?

smile

james_tigerwoods

16,344 posts

221 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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x5x3 said:
Simpo Two said:
x5x3 said:
our new kitchen is currently coming in at just over £40K. Whilst I admit it does look stunning - it seems a lot of money for something I only use a couple of times a day!
But think of the bragging rights...

lol - is that the "I am considerably richer than you" (in a Brummie accent wasn't it?) character?

If I was going to brag about it - I'd rather it was £40K cash in the bank than spent on a kitchen!

I guess the question comes down to two things, how can a £1.4 kitchen look anywhere near as good as a £40K one and how can it last as long?

And by the way - I am very happy to be proven wrong on this - whether you can persuade Mrs x5x3 is another matter though wink
I'm not going to sit here and say that my £1400 kitchen will look better than yours (it isn't) but there are different scenarios that will require differing amounts of money being spent to achieve different looks.

How long it will last will depend on how it's used and looked after really - but I would expect and hope that the £40k kitchen will last longer and be preferable to look at.

YHM btw.

Fittster

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20,120 posts

237 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Will the typical independent kitchen fitter sort out the other things that need doing (tiling, flooring, connecting gas appliances, etc)? Basically will they install the units then sub out the other bits and pieces, acting as a project manager?